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Old 12-25-2012, 09:48 AM
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Do you really want to listen haye saying how he is better than lennox/foreman/tyson if he somehow manage to stop vitali.
He's already said plenty of times he could never match Lennox and the likes. He knows the HW division is **** and would rather fight the other real champ for big money before they both retire for good.
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Old 12-25-2012, 10:18 AM
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He's already said plenty of times he could never match Lennox and the likes. He knows the HW division is **** and would rather fight the other real champ for big money before they both retire for good.
Where he said that? He said once he is not Lennox resume wise, but that's not brainer.. (he is not Arreola HW resume wise).

The real champ is Wlad. Beat some contenders and you will have a second chance - you can't ask for more than that.

What should Wlad do - not fight at all because there is no other opponents on his level.. Nonsense!

and I am not sure at all that Haye would have an easy time with either Price or Tyson...

He is 31, if he wants to retire now it is irrelevant if it's before or after one fight. He is irrelevant!
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Old 12-25-2012, 10:39 AM
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Where he said that? He said once he is not Lennox resume wise, but that's not brainer.. (he is not Arreola HW resume wise).

The real champ is Wlad. Beat some contenders and you will have a second chance - you can't ask for more than that.

What should Wlad do - not fight at all because there is no other opponents on his level.. Nonsense!

and I am not sure at all that Haye would have an easy time with either Price or Tyson...

He is 31, if he wants to retire now it is irrelevant if it's before or after one fight. He is irrelevant!
Saying he'll never be Lennox resume wise (he includes him being undisputed cruiserweight champ in that, not just his HW resume) is basically telling you that he knows he'll never be regarded as highly as Lennox was. For everything you can call Haye, he's not stupid.

He's fought Wlad and would like to fight Vitali also - given that the other side are quoted as saying 'beat Chisora and then fight Vitali', it would seem he beat the contender Vitali asked him to beat.

For someone who is irrelevant, Vitali talks about him a hell of a lot more than any other fighter.
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Old 12-25-2012, 10:58 AM
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Saying he'll never be Lennox resume wise (he includes him being undisputed cruiserweight champ in that, not just his HW resume) is basically telling you that he knows he'll never be regarded as highly as Lennox was. For everything you can call Haye, he's not stupid.

He's fought Wlad and would like to fight Vitali also - given that the other side are quoted as saying 'beat Chisora and then fight Vitali', it would seem he beat the contender Vitali asked him to beat.

For someone who is irrelevant, Vitali talks about him a hell of a lot more than any other fighter.
All this bs about vitali saying if haye beats chisorra he would fight him actually comes from chisorra promoter. He came up with the idea at press conference and it was just blunt yes from Klitschko promoter...

Lets not be fooled - haye ducked vitali twice.

Vitali always talks the same when speaks in english. Moreover he is always asked about haye. You should see his interviews in german... He rarely speaks about haye.

How can fighter who is more retired than not, non-champion, beaten by own brother be that important to champion who is 41 and half-retired himself...
Vitali beating haye would do less than beating tyson/price as there is a good chance one of these two would be a next HW champion.
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Old 12-25-2012, 11:11 AM
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Vitali beating haye would do less than beating tyson/price as there is a good chance one of these two would be a next HW champion.
Absolute nonsense.

Honestly, even if you hate Haye, you can't seriously believe that. Vitali himself has said several times before that Haye is a fight he badly wanted...it;s there.
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Old 12-25-2012, 11:56 AM
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Saying he'll never be Lennox resume wise (he includes him being undisputed cruiserweight champ in that, not just his HW resume) is basically telling you that he knows he'll never be regarded as highly as Lennox was. For everything you can call Haye, he's not stupid.

He's fought Wlad and would like to fight Vitali also - given that the other side are quoted as saying 'beat Chisora and then fight Vitali', it would seem he beat the contender Vitali asked him to beat.

For someone who is irrelevant, Vitali talks about him a hell of a lot more than any other fighter.
When was Haye the undisputed cruiserweight champion? Oh that is right he wasn't. Never mind I answered my own question.
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Old 12-25-2012, 12:20 PM
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Where he said that? He said once he is not Lennox resume wise, but that's not brainer.. (he is not Arreola HW resume wise).

The real champ is Wlad. Beat some contenders and you will have a second chance - you can't ask for more than that.

What should Wlad do - not fight at all because there is no other opponents on his level.. Nonsense!

and I am not sure at all that Haye would have an easy time with either Price or Tyson...

He is 31, if he wants to retire now it is irrelevant if it's before or after one fight. He is irrelevant!
Haye is relevant for a number of reasons here:

a) Price is a and will never step up and take a risk. His skill level is, in a sense, a moot point. Although if a guy does not have the maturity to step up....how would he handle it when he gets tapped on the chin? by a guy like Hayes?

B) God bless Fury he has the cajones....but, as they say in Brooklyn, Haye would morda him! . Fury will get better....he is at the level of Chisora and like Chisora he is young young young...so he will get there but not yet.

c) Since when is Vitali so degraded? last I checked the man was fighting well. He needs a challenge for his legacy and Haye is a live dog. Haye is the biggest threat to Vitali....

And Aeriola? He has a better resume but at this point in is career... Unless he shows otherwise, he does have some skills, like Odinaire, he goes in the category of "talented but unable to get in shape."

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Old 12-25-2012, 12:30 PM
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When was Haye the undisputed cruiserweight champion? Oh that is right he wasn't. Never mind I answered my own question.
Oh, excuse me, unified.

He held the WBA, WBC, WBO and Ring titles at cruiser. He would also have had the IBF had Bell not been stripped.
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Old 12-25-2012, 12:44 PM
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Funny how Europeans talk about how highly regarded Lennox Lewis is. The guy who got knocked out by two bums. Who was rocked most of his big fights. Lennox Lewis is a joke. Oh, yeah, that is right. He beat a completely shot Mike Tyson and struggled with a shot Evander Holyfield. Yeah, that makes him great.

Haye just wants a big payday.
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Old 12-25-2012, 12:48 PM
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Funny how Europeans talk about how highly regarded Lennox Lewis is. The guy who got knocked out by two bums. Who was rocked most of his big fights. Lennox Lewis is a joke. Oh, yeah, that is right. He beat a completely shot Mike Tyson and struggled with a shot Evander Holyfield. Yeah, that makes him great.
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