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Old 12-25-2012, 03:38 AM
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He did look back to his old self in the marquez fight but that devastating power he had for a short time, the power that made Oscar, Cotto's, Hatton's, Mosely's head just snap back when ever a shot landed, that does appear to have wained a bit. That Pacquiao would have stopped Bradley in a couple of rounds.
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Old 12-25-2012, 03:42 AM
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He did look back to his old self in the marquez fight but that devastating power he had for a short time, the power that made Oscar, Cotto's, Hatton's, Mosely's head just snap back when ever a shot landed, that does appear to have wained a bit. That Pacquiao would have stopped Bradley in a couple of rounds.
Oh it cant be they were weakened can it , after all the last thing that ever leaves a fighter is power but Mannys disappeared with the CWS like a switch , are you guys that gullible .
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Old 12-25-2012, 03:42 AM
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Manny was an energy fighter that overwhelms opponents with physical fury,non stop action and a super high work rate. Those type of fighters burn brightly and look invincible but when the energy levels drop they become human and vulnerable. The give away that his time at the may come to an end was when politics as a career was getting into his mind. Energy fighters like Tyson have to train like demons to stay on top when they let things slip they slip.
With Roy his problems all arose when he dropped down weight from going up to heavyweight. The big weight change and coming down in weight changed him and had a big physical effect on his punch resistance.reactions and how his body behaved. It was the big up and down in weight he went through that messed him up. That was the big unforeseen price he had to pay for gaining the heavyweight championship.
That's exactly how I look at it as well.
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Old 12-25-2012, 04:23 AM
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Roy jones & Manny Pacquiao.
Both guys moved up in weight and looked like superman, but "Something" happend.
We know Roy was dabbling in drugs, so his decline can be explained. But what happend to Manny?
Pac fought better fighters than RJJ ever did. Plus pac has been no1 for 7 years seeminly unbeatable. Pac hasnt declined fast, he has other interests now.

He was beating JMM before being ko´´ed so is still a better fighter than JMM
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Old 12-25-2012, 04:31 AM
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Huh? You serious?

Jones moved down and looked awful against Tarver the first time, worse than ever before, then got KOd twice in a row, neither against a HOF level fighter.

Pacquiao just came off a dominating performance against a young, undefeated, prime champion at his very best, then looked better than he had in years against another ATG before being set up and countered perfectly. That's not falling off.

Falling off quick is Roberto Duran looking like the greatest fighter that had ever lived beating ATG Leonard, going without a loss for a decade and becoming the lineal champ at 135 and 147, then looking like complete ****e suddenly and losing three of five fights in just two years, one against a contender. That's falling off quick.

Pacquiao hasn't even got close to that. He doesn't even remotely resemble falling off quick in real terms like that. He just fought and looked as good as he ever had arguably, despite losing and before that dominated what was considered and meant to be one of his hardest fights in years.

We're only going to see if he falls off quick with his next couple of fights, and whether the KO has done something to him, because he still hasn't fallen off just yet.
Roy in the 2000s was past prime. He was 35 when he got KO'ed by Tarver.
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Old 12-25-2012, 06:08 AM
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Yay, another Manny was on drugs thread.... lemme get my popcorn
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Old 12-25-2012, 06:57 AM
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Manny isn't even a full time boxer. People forget he is a congressmen. Like Floyd said, boxing is so hard, you need 100 per cent dedication.


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Old 12-25-2012, 07:01 AM
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Oh and lil guys do fall after 30.Pac is 33 or 34... To maintain that speed is crazy and workrate is crazy. His style is hard, he takes losds of shots
People say oh rios and guys with that style won't last long yet never say that about Pac... Of course his chin will not be the same after so many fights and wars.


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His "rapid decline" has been massively overstated. He CLEARLY beat Bradley, maybe not as clearly as the ridiculously biased HBO commentary would have one believe but clearly nonetheless. And he was well on his way to whipping JMM's ass before he got overly aggressive and got KO'd for the ages. Hey, no excuses -- his fault there.

But before that final second of round 6 MP was inches away from stopping JMM. Marquez was hanging on for dear life at that point.
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Old 12-25-2012, 08:48 AM
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Falling of fast is Douglas, Jermaine Taylor, Berto, Lopez, Margarito, Bladomir,
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