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Old 12-11-2012, 07:45 PM
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Really nonito???? Cough..victor cough..conte cough cough...LOL
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Old 12-11-2012, 07:46 PM
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thats interesting..on the balco and balco scandal wiki page it never makes mention of heredia. it instead mentions of an Illinois chemist named Patrick Arnold who was the chemist for BALCO.

also from the deadspin article you linked here's an interesting quote:



seems like heredia was mostly doing his own thing.....

but i still don't know why it matters if he really was part of BALCO or not....the fact remains is that the two are no longer associated with each other and conte isn't the chemist responsible for helping create the undetectable drugs nor was he the one who directly instructed olympic athletes on how to cheat their tests....
WOW! you really believe BALCO only had 1 chemist working for them?!

Conte told a national audience that he had personally given Jones five different illegal performance enhancing drugs before, during and after the 2000 Sydney Olympic Games.

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Old 12-11-2012, 07:56 PM
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This has gotten ridiculous. Im waiting for soggylungs to come out and say "well it just says he gave them to them but not that he helped them cheat" SMH!

Bottom line is Conte helped athletes cheat and so did Memo so neither is better than the other no matter if one did 4 months in jail and the other changed his name. So if you are going to accuse then you have to accuse the other. Im all for better testing but you guys are clowns.

Read it with your own eyes from many sites but still dont beilieve. But one article written by one guy on a rumor comes out and of course that is gospel.
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Old 12-11-2012, 07:58 PM
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Patrick Arnold was the main chemist and the guy that created the clear and others.
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Patrick Arnold was the main chemist and the guy that created the clear and others.
Yes i know who Arnold is.
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Old 12-11-2012, 08:10 PM
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WOW! you really believe BALCO only had 1 chemist working for them?!
then why no mention of heredia? he apparently was at the top of the food chain in terms of supplying PEDs to olympic athletes and coaches like trevor graham..why instead is it another guy who is cited for being the chemist at BALCO?

http://deadspin.com/5857439/what-do-...teroids-dealer

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In the US government's 2008 case against track coach Trevor Graham, stemming from the BALCO scandal, Memo Heredia was labeled "Source A." He didn't get that designation because he came first alphabetically. Heredia was the prosecution's star witness, and he gave up comprehensive documentation showing PED use by stars like Marion Jones, Tim Montgomery, Justin Gatlin and C.J. Hunter. But Heredia wasn't just a random eyewitness; he was caught dead to rights as a steroid dealer and user, and testified to save his own skin.
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http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_re...thread=2481046

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Two days after Graham***8217;s apparently responsible act of whistleblowing, Jeff Novitsky rifled through garbage belonging to Conte***8217;s laboratory. As part of an IRS investigation into Balco, it was Novitsky***8217;s job to sift through the trash and that evening, he made an extraordinary discovery.

On the same day that Graham had posted off the syringe to USADA, Conte had written a letter to USADA and the International Association of Athletics Federations (IAAF) accusing Graham of systematically doping his athletes and using a Mexican contact to supply the drugs. Given that the letter was in the garbage, it seemed Conte had written it, had second thoughts and not sent it.
Mexican contact being Heredia i assume. so according to this source heredia was a separate contact.

but like i said before...whether he worked for balco or not doesn't matter now. conte isn't living in secrecy like heredia is. conte isn't a chemist responsible for making undetectable peds..plus he did the time he paid the price and i'm sure he knows he doesn't want to go down that path again. unlike heredia who changed his name, lives in secrecy in mexico working with 9 unnamed world boxing champions.

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Old 12-11-2012, 09:52 PM
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Memo isn't living in secrecy and just met with US federal investigators last week.
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