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Old 12-09-2012, 11:54 AM
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Manny is the last person I'd sympathize for with his constant refusal to undergo any kind of testing, two wrongs don't make a right but I honestly don't give a fuck. All I know is that one of the biggest names in boxing did not want to advocate for a cleaner sport, fuck him. That said I thought he was gone, glad he's alright.
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Old 12-09-2012, 12:00 PM
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It is kinda odd how he carried that weight so well...same could be said about Pacquiao in his previous fights at 140 and above.
Most of Manny's tko/KO wins came from accumulation of punches.

Hatton KO was a flush shot to the jaw, anyone with a decent power can do that.

39 yr old Marquez did a one punch brutal KO against a granite chin at such short momentum right hand and have him Out cold for like 5 mins? Thats insane power.

Manny looked like he was getting hit by Vitali there lol.

And the speed of Marquez? wow.
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Old 12-09-2012, 12:00 PM
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Timing/technique/accuracy, had very little to do with JMM's punching power. Pac simply walked into the punch. PEDs wouldn't have produced that finish, it was Marquez's ring IQ.
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Old 12-09-2012, 12:04 PM
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Yes JMM was peded out, athletes don't increase speed, stamina, power, and endurance at the age of 39, but PAC didn't insist on vada testing, so its on him, isn't it?

Thats the problem with overly religious people, they tend to be simple minded and naive because they think its all part of gods plan.
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Old 12-09-2012, 12:05 PM
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Most of Manny's tko/KO wins came from accumulation of punches.

Hatton KO was a flush shot to the jaw, anyone with a decent power can do that.

39 yr old Marquez did a one punch brutal KO against a granite chin at such short momentum right hand and have him Out cold for like 5 mins? Thats insane power.

Manny looked like he was getting hit by Vitali there lol.

And the speed of Marquez? wow.
How many more morons is this going to produce? Have you ever seen marquez fight before tonight? He was slower than he's ever been! Clearly.

Also, the Marquez punch was a flush punch to the jaw, just like the Hatton. Difference is Marquez also has excellent power, like Pac. In fact, he has more KOs in the same number of fights with a higher KO ratio. So according to you, this is perfectly normal. When someone gets caught very cleanly, right one to chin, they're going to go. It's happened to Pac 3 times now. This is not an anomaly.

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Old 12-09-2012, 12:10 PM
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I said before the fight that both of them are juiced to the gills.

I still stand by my prediction..

Both of them were juiced up last night and they both knew it.
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Old 12-09-2012, 12:13 PM
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Yes JMM was peded out, athletes don't increase speed, stamina, power, and endurance at the age of 39, but PAC didn't insist on vada testing, so its on him, isn't it?

Thats the problem with overly religious people, they tend to be simple minded and naive because they think its all part of gods plan.
Speed? Marquez was slower than ever.

Stamina? He looked tired and it was only the 6th round.

Endurance? The fight only lasted until half way and Marquez has always, since the beginning of his career, been known as a fighter with great endurance who gets better as the fight wears on. He was looking worse as the fight wore on this time.

Power? Marquez has always had great power, but Pac was much more reckless this fight and Marquez caught him cleanly only twice. He has hurt him in every other fight too, and nearly put him down with much lesser shots than those landed today. It was about Pacs aggression, not Marquez' power.
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Old 12-09-2012, 12:15 PM
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it wasnt PEDS. He got hit with a shot he didnt see. Dont mean hes on PEDS or anything. It was a good shot.
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I said before the fight that both of them are juiced to the gills.

I still stand by my prediction..

Both of them were juiced up last night and they both knew it.
yeah marquez just wanted a fair fight.
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Old 12-09-2012, 12:17 PM
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I called it! JMM by KO then all pac fans and teampac wil start screaming about PEDs and better testing. Team pac will soon follow
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