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Old 12-09-2012, 10:56 AM #31
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I normaly take all this peds acusations with a bit of salt, but marquez CLEARLY looked like had taken something.
And given the fact that he truly beleives that he has been robbed 3 times against manny ,and seen mannyes stock take on bibical proprotions, il say he had all the motives.

He looked 10 times as jacked up as he has ever done his intire life
No he didn't his biceps were slightly bigger apart from that he looked the same as the third fight weigh in. He was also visibly slower and sat down and chose his shots. He sacrificed speed for power and it paid off.
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Old 12-09-2012, 11:01 AM #32
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It is kinda odd how he carried that weight so well...same could be said about Pacquiao in his previous fights at 140 and above.
He wasn't that much heavier, just way more muscular. In their second fight, four and a half years ago, Marquez was 141 on the night, he was 148 last night. Similarly Pacquiao was 145 on the night in 2008, and he was only 151 last night.
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Old 12-09-2012, 11:02 AM #33
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Old 12-09-2012, 11:17 AM #35
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No he didn't his biceps were slightly bigger apart from that he looked the same as the third fight weigh in. He was also visibly slower and sat down and chose his shots. He sacrificed speed for power and it paid off.
Correct. I noticed this as well. He was relying on his timing only. He was not fighting backwards either, he was pushing forward. I was thinking he came to win or die in there.
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Old 12-09-2012, 11:18 AM #36
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I normaly take all this peds acusations with a bit of salt, but marquez CLEARLY looked like had taken something.
And given the fact that he truly beleives that he has been robbed 3 times against manny ,and seen mannyes stock take on bibical proprotions, il say he had all the motives.

He looked 10 times as jacked up as he has ever done his intire life
Well take it as a grain of salt, because Pacquiao looked like he had CLEARLY taken something back in 2009, so don't start throwing stones now that Marquez decided to fight fire with fire.
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It is kinda odd how he carried that weight so well...same could be said about Pacquiao in his previous fights at 140 and above.
well pac since 130 was coming in at 142-145 on fight night. when pac was fighting at ww his fight night weight was usually 148..so pac was pretty much just fighting at his natural weight class...
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Old 12-09-2012, 11:22 AM #38
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He wasn't that much heavier, just way more muscular. In their second fight, four and a half years ago, Marquez was 141 on the night, he was 148 last night. Similarly Pacquiao was 145 on the night in 2008, and he was only 151 last night.
it wasn't so much hw muscular he looked it was the fact that he knocked down pacquiao ..pac hasn't been knocked down since 2003..and the fact that he ko'ed pac and pac hasn't been ko'ed since he was like 21..marquez showed some unreal power that night being able to do what barrera, morales, cotto and 165lb margarito couldn't do..
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It is kinda odd how he carried that weight so well...same could be said about Pacquiao in his previous fights at 140 and above.


add that marquez looked like junk in his first go at 147, and that his s and c coach is a known steroid guy, it does look fishy. the guy is close to 40... i'll hold out hope that he's clean. the piss tests the use are hardly adequate, anyway, especially with a steroid guru like heredia.
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