Bookmark Website  | Free Registration  | The Team
Boxing Champions |  Boxing Schedule |  Boxing Video  |  Boxing History   |  Pound For Pound  | Lounge  | The Wire |  Audio  | Arcade

Navigation
Go Back   Boxing Forum > Boxing Forums > Non Stop Boxing
View Poll Results: Past Prime Ali of Norton-Frazier III-Foreman fights vs K2's resume
He beats every single fighter klitschkos fought 13 59.09%
He only loses to Old Lennox 6 27.27%
He loses 2 1 4.55%
He lose 3 or more 2 9.09%
Voters: 22. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
Thread Navigation

#1
Old 12-06-2012, 02:39 AM
Deathknight88
Banned
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 282
Rep Power: 0 Deathknight88 is infamous around these parts Deathknight88 is infamous around these parts Deathknight88 is infamous around these parts Deathknight88 is infamous around these parts Deathknight88 is infamous around these parts Deathknight88 is infamous around these parts Deathknight88 is infamous around these parts Deathknight88 is infamous around these parts Deathknight88 is infamous around these parts Deathknight88 is infamous around these parts Deathknight88 is infamous around these parts
Points: 100,086,216.97
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 100,086,216.97
kick this hateful troll - Freedom. 
Default Past Prime Ali(Foreman,Frazier III DAYS) vs both Klitschko's resume. What happens?

I'm not talking about the prime lightning fast supreme reflexes Ali of 63-67. I'm talking about the past prime version who fought Prime Foreman,Norton,Frazier III. How will he do against BOTH Klitschko's resumes?


Past Prime 37 Year old out of shape but still very elite Lennox Lewis. 6'5
David Haye 6'2
Chris Arreloa 6'3
Samuel Peter 6'1
Derek Chisora 6'0
Mariuz Wach 6'8
Chris Byrd 6'0
38 Year old Corrie Sanders 6'4
Sultan Ibragimov 6'1
Tony Thompson 6'5
Eddie Chambers. 6'0
Lamont Brewster 6'1
Ross Purrity 6'3

I honestly think that version of Ali will lose to the old Lennox that fought Vitali. I think he will struggle a bit with Chris Byrd mainly due to styles. Haye will be a relatively boring replay of the Wlad vs Haye fight. Probably 9-3 Ali.

It is interesting to see that the majority of K2's opponents are either around Ali's height or actually shorter.
Reply With Quote
Deathknight88 is offline
Advertisements
>>>TO REMOVE THESE ADS, PLEASE REGISTER HERE FOR FREE<<<
#2
Old 12-06-2012, 02:42 AM
4Corners
VATO GATO BLANCO
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 16,711
Rep Power: 47 4Corners has a reputation beyond repute 4Corners has a reputation beyond repute 4Corners has a reputation beyond repute 4Corners has a reputation beyond repute 4Corners has a reputation beyond repute 4Corners has a reputation beyond repute 4Corners has a reputation beyond repute 4Corners has a reputation beyond repute 4Corners has a reputation beyond repute 4Corners has a reputation beyond repute 4Corners has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 1,000,200,106,043,280.50
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 1,000,200,106,043,280.50
respect you as a poster, keep it up champ! - Atreyu Khalil  good poster - joesaiditstrue  Good poster. Freedom is an idiot. - RossCA  No Message - RossCA  Great album choices! That's what's up! - jose830 
keep up the solid posts. - sugarsmosley  No Message - -jose- 
Default

I'd say his prime was 64-67. From 70-75 he was past prime/still good though. After the 3rd Frazier fight, he was a shell of himself, and still won against Shavers and had close fights with Young and Norton again.

Anyways, a 32-33 year old Ali in 74-75 beats them all.
Reply With Quote
4Corners is offline
#3
Old 12-06-2012, 02:54 AM
daggum
All time great
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 20,443
Rep Power: 72 daggum has a reputation beyond repute daggum has a reputation beyond repute daggum has a reputation beyond repute daggum has a reputation beyond repute daggum has a reputation beyond repute daggum has a reputation beyond repute daggum has a reputation beyond repute daggum has a reputation beyond repute daggum has a reputation beyond repute daggum has a reputation beyond repute daggum has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 1,001,150,439,937.96
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 1,001,150,439,937.96
you deserve a kick for your hatred of white boxers - Freedom.  you post nothing except hatred and ridicule of the boxers - Freedom.  You post nothing except hatred and ridicule of boxers.... keep up the good work - Deal With It  You deserve a medal for your hatred of white boxers - Deal With It  this hater deserves a kick - Freedom. 
have a blue parallelogram - Jack Napier  Joe, Floyd, and Wlad are winners, you are a loser - Freedom.  for the hilarious and utterly relentless Zag bashing! - The Surgeon  No Message - Tha_Greatest  stand up poster - bigsmoothh 
pizza pizza - bigsmoothh  Wilder's right hand leaves them too drunk to stand! - valero  calzaghe = goat - sugarsmosley  give this loser daggum another kick - Freedom2014  you are the funniest poster on the site, here's a pie - jas 
this calzaghe reminder thread is hilarious - jas  a truly great poster - jas  hella funny posts - SlySlickSmooth  Caffeine - For working those CompuClinch graveyard shifts. - - Ram Raid -  Superman - jas 
Cancer - Epilepsy - Foster Care - Gynecological Cancer - Rett Syndrome - PensionKiller  Cultural Diversity - Hunger - Leukemia - Lupus - Melanoma - Racial Tolerance - Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy Syndrome - Self Injury - jas  Cesarean Sections - Headaches - Hospice Care - Multiple Myeloma - jas  Bone Marrow Donation - Childhood Depression - Depression - Environment - Eye Injury Prevention - Glaucoma - Kidney Cancer - Kidney Disease - Kidney Transplantation - Leukemia - Lyme Disease - Mental Retardation - Missing Children - Organ Donation - T - jas  Lou Gehrig's Disease (ALS) - jas 
Autism - jas 
Default

wach is so tall! how could ali the midget ever beat him?
Reply With Quote
daggum is offline
#4
Old 12-06-2012, 03:09 AM
Michael Paine
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 7,661
Rep Power: 32 Michael Paine has a reputation beyond repute Michael Paine has a reputation beyond repute Michael Paine has a reputation beyond repute Michael Paine has a reputation beyond repute Michael Paine has a reputation beyond repute Michael Paine has a reputation beyond repute Michael Paine has a reputation beyond repute Michael Paine has a reputation beyond repute Michael Paine has a reputation beyond repute Michael Paine has a reputation beyond repute Michael Paine has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 181,856.82
Bank: 389,482,418,360.95
Total Points: 389,482,600,217.77
ownage of a pactard - I'm so sorry  Pacquiao vs Marquez IV! - Check_hooks  you deserve a kick for your hatred of the Klitschkos - Freedom.  Happy belated 1 year Anniversary. - E.P.T.  Hahahaha, funny reply my ninja, here's another cake for your upcoming 2 year anniversary. - E.P.T. 
happy holidays, great poster - sugarsmosley 
Default

Would Ali be allowed to cheat every 10 secs like Wlad? If yes then he beats all apart from Lewis.
Reply With Quote
Michael Paine is offline
#5
Old 12-06-2012, 03:25 AM
4Corners
VATO GATO BLANCO
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 16,711
Rep Power: 47 4Corners has a reputation beyond repute 4Corners has a reputation beyond repute 4Corners has a reputation beyond repute 4Corners has a reputation beyond repute 4Corners has a reputation beyond repute 4Corners has a reputation beyond repute 4Corners has a reputation beyond repute 4Corners has a reputation beyond repute 4Corners has a reputation beyond repute 4Corners has a reputation beyond repute 4Corners has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 1,000,200,106,043,280.50
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 1,000,200,106,043,280.50
respect you as a poster, keep it up champ! - Atreyu Khalil  good poster - joesaiditstrue  Good poster. Freedom is an idiot. - RossCA  No Message - RossCA  Great album choices! That's what's up! - jose830 
keep up the solid posts. - sugarsmosley  No Message - -jose- 
Default

Why does anyone think a 37 year old out of shape Lennox could beat a still good, though not prime, 32-33 year old Ali??? I mean Ali beat Frazier twice, Foreman, and Lyle around this time, and he couldn't handle an old out of shape Lennox???
Reply With Quote
4Corners is offline
#6
Old 12-06-2012, 03:30 AM
Michael Paine
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 7,661
Rep Power: 32 Michael Paine has a reputation beyond repute Michael Paine has a reputation beyond repute Michael Paine has a reputation beyond repute Michael Paine has a reputation beyond repute Michael Paine has a reputation beyond repute Michael Paine has a reputation beyond repute Michael Paine has a reputation beyond repute Michael Paine has a reputation beyond repute Michael Paine has a reputation beyond repute Michael Paine has a reputation beyond repute Michael Paine has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 181,856.82
Bank: 389,482,418,360.95
Total Points: 389,482,600,217.77
ownage of a pactard - I'm so sorry  Pacquiao vs Marquez IV! - Check_hooks  you deserve a kick for your hatred of the Klitschkos - Freedom.  Happy belated 1 year Anniversary. - E.P.T.  Hahahaha, funny reply my ninja, here's another cake for your upcoming 2 year anniversary. - E.P.T. 
happy holidays, great poster - sugarsmosley 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 4Corners View Post
Why does anyone think a 37 year old out of shape Lennox could beat a still good, though not prime, 32-33 year old Ali??? I mean Ali beat Frazier twice, Foreman, and Lyle around this time, and he couldn't handle an old out of shape Lennox???
Maybe because Ali no longer had his foot speed and lewis would have the advantage in every department. Power, size, reach, and was a damn good fighter that wouldn't fall in to Ali's traps.
Reply With Quote
Michael Paine is offline
#7
Old 12-06-2012, 03:37 AM
4Corners
VATO GATO BLANCO
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 16,711
Rep Power: 47 4Corners has a reputation beyond repute 4Corners has a reputation beyond repute 4Corners has a reputation beyond repute 4Corners has a reputation beyond repute 4Corners has a reputation beyond repute 4Corners has a reputation beyond repute 4Corners has a reputation beyond repute 4Corners has a reputation beyond repute 4Corners has a reputation beyond repute 4Corners has a reputation beyond repute 4Corners has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 1,000,200,106,043,280.50
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 1,000,200,106,043,280.50
respect you as a poster, keep it up champ! - Atreyu Khalil  good poster - joesaiditstrue  Good poster. Freedom is an idiot. - RossCA  No Message - RossCA  Great album choices! That's what's up! - jose830 
keep up the solid posts. - sugarsmosley  No Message - -jose- 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Own3d View Post
Maybe because Ali no longer had his foot speed and lewis would have the advantage in every department. Power, size, reach, and was a damn good fighter that wouldn't fall in to Ali's traps.
He wasn't the same guy he was in his prime or even in 70-71, but he could still fight. Lennox was way out of shape when he fought Vitali, Ali didn't really get out of shape until after the time period TS was talking about.





This was Ali in early 74' against Frazier in their second fight. Ali was still pretty damn good, though not what he was before obviously. I'd favor that Ali over that Lennox by decision.
Reply With Quote
4Corners is offline
#8
Old 12-06-2012, 03:50 AM
Earl Hickey
Boooooomb Squad
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 18,514
Blog Entries: 1
Rep Power: 108 Earl Hickey has a reputation beyond repute Earl Hickey has a reputation beyond repute Earl Hickey has a reputation beyond repute Earl Hickey has a reputation beyond repute Earl Hickey has a reputation beyond repute Earl Hickey has a reputation beyond repute Earl Hickey has a reputation beyond repute Earl Hickey has a reputation beyond repute Earl Hickey has a reputation beyond repute Earl Hickey has a reputation beyond repute Earl Hickey has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 500,001,081,785.78
Bank: 1,005,679,519,297,074.12
Total Points: 1,006,179,520,378,859.88
have fun with this - Sir TomJones  Apple - iBreakbeat  You'll need these - Rip Chudd  Congrats man! - Rip Chudd  Stay safe - rorymac 
Making us BS members proud - Versastyle  Happy early Bday and congrats on 10k love :kiss: - Bossy  blue parallelogram for your birthday - Jack Napier  Happy Birthday darling! I hope you have a wonderful day xxx - Bossy  I swear you make my day with every single post. - Alx. 
LOL, that cracked me up. Here's a cold one on me. - BulgariasFinest  Excellent poster. I chuckle every time you post that gif of RJJ getting KTFO. - I'm so sorry  Here's one on me - led*  14k posts - ShaunRoberts  Merry Christmas and Happy New Year - Freedom. 
happy 15,000 - JonoYoungP4P  Boxing scenes number one idiot - ROSS CALIFORNIA  #FREE EARL HICKEY #JusticeForEarl - thuggery  with a bit of luck it's not severe! - HUGH JASS  Wilder's right hand leaves them too drunk to stand! - valero 
AIDS/HIV - DARE - DUI Awareness - Epidermolysis Bullosa - Heart Disease - Lymphoma - MADD - Substance Abuse - mangler  Arthritis - Child Abuse - Colon Cancer - Colorectal Cancer - Dystonia - Education - Free Speech - Interstitial Cystitis - ME/CFIDS - Reye's Syndrome - Save the Music - Teens Against Smoking - Victim's Rights - Water Quality - mangler  Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - mangler  Cultural Diversity - Hunger - Leukemia - Lupus - Melanoma - Racial Tolerance - Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy Syndrome - Self Injury - Gift Giver  AIDS/HIV - DARE - DUI Awareness - Epidermolysis Bullosa - Heart Disease - Lymphoma - MADD - Substance Abuse - Ether 
Anti-Tobacco - Colon Cancer - Colorectal Cancer - MANGLER  Cesarean Sections - Headaches - Hospice Care - Multiple Myeloma - MANGLER  Arthritis - Child Abuse - Colon Cancer - Colorectal Cancer - Dystonia - Education - Free Speech - Interstitial Cystitis - ME/CFIDS - Reye's Syndrome - Save the Music - Teens Against Smoking - Victim's Rights - Water Quality - jazluvr  AIDS/HIV - DARE - DUI Awareness - Epidermolysis Bullosa - Heart Disease - Lymphoma - MADD - Substance Abuse - ???  Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - iBreakbeat 
Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - MANIAC310  Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - Shiranui  Mourning - Anti-Gang - Melanoma - TBear  Graves Disease - Lymphedema - Men's Health - Pro Choice - Prostate Cancer - Scleroderma - Thyroid Disease - Trisomy 18 - TBear  Adoptee - Bone Cancer - Child Exploitation and Abuse - Hope and Support - Peace - Retinoblastoma - Right to Life - Student Sexual Assault - TBear 
Bone Marrow Donation - Childhood Depression - Depression - Environment - Eye Injury Prevention - Glaucoma - Kidney Cancer - Kidney Disease - Kidney Transplantation - Leukemia - Lyme Disease - Mental Retardation - Missing Children - Organ Donation - T - !! AI-Holmes!!  AIDS/HIV - DARE - DUI Awareness - Epidermolysis Bullosa - Heart Disease - Lymphoma - MADD - Substance Abuse - !! AI-Holmes!!  Children with Disabilities - Parkinson's Disease - VACTERL - Young Onset Parkinson's Association - thuggery 
Default

That Lewis vs That Ali is a thread of it's own

Obviously Ali beats everyone else though
Reply With Quote
Earl Hickey is offline
#9
Old 12-06-2012, 03:51 AM
Michael Paine
Undisputed Champion
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 7,661
Rep Power: 32 Michael Paine has a reputation beyond repute Michael Paine has a reputation beyond repute Michael Paine has a reputation beyond repute Michael Paine has a reputation beyond repute Michael Paine has a reputation beyond repute Michael Paine has a reputation beyond repute Michael Paine has a reputation beyond repute Michael Paine has a reputation beyond repute Michael Paine has a reputation beyond repute Michael Paine has a reputation beyond repute Michael Paine has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 181,856.82
Bank: 389,482,418,360.95
Total Points: 389,482,600,217.77
ownage of a pactard - I'm so sorry  Pacquiao vs Marquez IV! - Check_hooks  you deserve a kick for your hatred of the Klitschkos - Freedom.  Happy belated 1 year Anniversary. - E.P.T.  Hahahaha, funny reply my ninja, here's another cake for your upcoming 2 year anniversary. - E.P.T. 
happy holidays, great poster - sugarsmosley 
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 4Corners View Post
He wasn't the same guy he was in his prime or even in 70-71, but he could still fight. Lennox was way out of shape when he fought Vitali, Ali didn't really get out of shape until after the time period TS was talking about.





This was Ali in early 74' against Frazier in their second fight. Ali was still pretty damn good, though not what he was before obviously. I'd favor that Ali over that Lennox by decision.
Thread starter said Foreman and after when he had clearly lost his foot speed.



Lewis stops him.
Reply With Quote
Michael Paine is offline
#10
Old 12-06-2012, 04:03 AM
4Corners
VATO GATO BLANCO
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 16,711
Rep Power: 47 4Corners has a reputation beyond repute 4Corners has a reputation beyond repute 4Corners has a reputation beyond repute 4Corners has a reputation beyond repute 4Corners has a reputation beyond repute 4Corners has a reputation beyond repute 4Corners has a reputation beyond repute 4Corners has a reputation beyond repute 4Corners has a reputation beyond repute 4Corners has a reputation beyond repute 4Corners has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 1,000,200,106,043,280.50
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 1,000,200,106,043,280.50
respect you as a poster, keep it up champ! - Atreyu Khalil  good poster - joesaiditstrue  Good poster. Freedom is an idiot. - RossCA  No Message - RossCA  Great album choices! That's what's up! - jose830 
keep up the solid posts. - sugarsmosley  No Message - -jose- 
Default

Lewis doesn't stop Ali when he could still fight. 76-80......that's a different story. Ali's last fight where he could fight was Ali-Frazier III.

I thought we were talking just 74-75 in general, that time period. If we were talking a late 90's or even a 00' Lennox, I'd say he beats a 74-75 Ali. But Lennox wasn't much at the point of the Vitali fight. He still had his power, Ali could handle power though. Ali also would still have a noticeable speed advantage, even at 32-33 years old. I'd favor Ali by a close and competitive decision.

It's all opinions though.
Reply With Quote
4Corners is offline
Reply

Share This With Friends

Tags
ali(foreman , days) , frazier , happens? , klitschko's , past , prime , resume.

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

Privacy Policy - Submit News - Feedback - Site Map - Advertise with Us

Copyright 2003-2014 BoxingScene LLC All rights reserved.

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:49 AM.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2015, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.