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Old 12-02-2012, 03:20 PM
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Anyone else think so? His style didn't make him the most appealing boxer to networks like HBO but he was a natural middleweight going up against some of the hardest hitting, most lethal heavyweights in the world.

Nobody wanted to fight him ... he would make guys look completely silly ... it was hard for anyone to each lay a glove on him. His resume is pretty solid as well and his victory against Vitali was huge. There's a reason why he never fought Byrd again in a rematch and let Wlad take care of him. He also fought a great fight against David Tua.

He was definitely among the top 5 heavyweights of the last decade
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Old 12-02-2012, 03:33 PM
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Anyone else think so? His style didn't make him the most appealing boxer to networks like HBO but he was a natural middleweight going up against some of the hardest hitting, most lethal heavyweights in the world.

Nobody wanted to fight him ... he would make guys look completely silly ... it was hard for anyone to each lay a glove on him. His resume is pretty solid as well and his victory against Vitali was huge. There's a reason why he never fought Byrd again in a rematch and let Wlad take care of him. He also fought a great fight against David Tua.

He was definitely among the top 5 heavyweights of the last decade
Great post. His style is extremely underrated, BUT his weakness was always going to be against Wlad/Lewis type boxer. When you put him against come forward one dem sluggers(tua) or awkward super heavys like Vitali he will always shine.

Byrd really did figure out Vitali around the 6th round +, the myth that Vitali dominated the fight is a joke. Byrd would have won the fight and gotten robbed. It is just a styles nightmare for Vitali.

Ironically Sanders was a styles nightmare for Wlad.... and Vitali ended up fighting Sanders.... just like Wlad fought Byrd lol.


That being said, a Prime Version of Tyson would walk through him and kill Byrd. So we have to put things in perspective. I think of the k2 ERA.

We got
Elite: Wlad
Elite:Vitali
World Class: Byrd
Semi World Class:Povetkin
Semi World Class:Adamek
Wild Card avid Haye (h2h)

These are the six best heavys of the K2 Era. Outside of k2, even a mid 90's version of Tyson would have dominated this crop.


TBH . David Haye is actually the third best heavy of this era.. With a real shot at #2. But he just wasted the first half of his career, hopefully his 2nd half will live up to potential.
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Old 12-02-2012, 03:44 PM
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To be fair, I'd put guys like Chagaev, ibragimov, Sam Peter over Haye or in the same class

I think the best versions of any of those guys would beat Haye, especially Sam Peter
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Old 12-02-2012, 03:49 PM
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To be fair, I'd put guys like Chagaev, ibragimov, Sam Peter over Haye or in the same class

I think the best versions of any of those guys would beat Haye, especially Sam Peter
Hmm. Well maybe. I am judging Haye based on his perceived abilities. Which might mean **** all.

Sam Peter could have knocked Wlad out in that first fight with an extra 10 seconds towards the end of r9 or r10. So yes. That version could probably have kayoed Haye.
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Old 12-02-2012, 07:19 PM
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Great post. His style is extremely underrated, BUT his weakness was always going to be against Wlad/Lewis type boxer. When you put him against come forward one dem sluggers(tua) or awkward super heavys like Vitali he will always shine.

Byrd really did figure out Vitali around the 6th round +, the myth that Vitali dominated the fight is a joke. Byrd would have won the fight and gotten robbed. It is just a styles nightmare for Vitali.

Ironically Sanders was a styles nightmare for Wlad.... and Vitali ended up fighting Sanders.... just like Wlad fought Byrd lol.


That being said, a Prime Version of Tyson would walk through him and kill Byrd. So we have to put things in perspective. I think of the k2 ERA.

We got
Elite: Wlad
Elite:Vitali
World Class: Byrd
Semi World Class:Povetkin
Semi World Class:Adamek
Wild Card avid Haye (h2h)

These are the six best heavys of the K2 Era. Outside of k2, even a mid 90's version of Tyson would have dominated this crop.


TBH . David Haye is actually the third best heavy of this era.. With a real shot at #2. But he just wasted the first half of his career, hopefully his 2nd half will live up to potential.
He would not have always "shined" against vitali unless your definition of shine is being outboxed with ease.

The only reason Byrd rematched wlad instead of vitali was because wlad needed his belt. Byrds only hope of being vitali is hoping he gets injured which isnt much of a game plan.
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Old 12-02-2012, 07:21 PM
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He would not have always "shined" against vitali unless your definition of shine is being outboxed with ease.

The only reason Byrd rematched wlad instead of vitali was because wlad needed his belt. Byrds only hope of being vitali is hoping he gets injured which isnt much of a game plan.
He clowned Vitali and made him quit.
Vitali was on his way to quitting again against Chisora.
Go read the daily mail uk.
He said if it wasn't for Chisora slapping him, he would have just stop because the pain was too much.
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Old 12-02-2012, 07:40 PM
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I think so yeah, extremely skilled man, would of made some serious noise if he kept his weight down instead of giving up so much size at heavyweight.
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Old 12-02-2012, 08:28 PM
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He clowned Vitali and made him quit.
Vitali was on his way to quitting again against Chisora.
Go read the daily mail uk.
He said if it wasn't for Chisora slapping him, he would have just stop because the pain was too much.
Thanks for tipping off your ridiculous bias. Yeah, he "clowned" Vitali. No need to take you seriously.
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He would not have always "shined" against vitali unless your definition of shine is being outboxed with ease.

The only reason Byrd rematched wlad instead of vitali was because wlad needed his belt. Byrds only hope of being vitali is hoping he gets injured which isnt much of a game plan.

Vits was winning the fight but he definitely wasn't doing it with ease. Most of the rounds were close and Byrd was competitive enough to back Klit up plenty of times and makie him miss more than any fighter before or since. I think Vitaly only landed 8 more punches. That alone says you're wrong considering Byrd gave up 35lbs and 8 inches in height and took the fight on 10 days notice. Vitaly should have redeemed himself by rematching him, belt or no belt. I don't know where the whole "Wlad needed that belt" thing comes from but its irrelevant. I would never pick Byrd to win, but I have no doubt Vits didn't want to look bad again and having his own fans cheering for Byrd again. And given the proper time to train that very well could have happened.
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Thanks for tipping off your ridiculous bias. Yeah, he "clowned" Vitali. No need to take you seriously.
A six foot tall former MW made a 6'8 SHW quit in front of his home fans. He made Vitali miss and look stupid from round 5 on ward and had Vitali backing off.
Larry Merchant "WOW THIS IS UNREAL, DAVID BACKING GOLIATH UP"

Vitali pretended he didn't speak English in the post fight interview to dodge Merchant's questions, promised a rematch and never fought Byrd again.

I'm sorry I didn't type out all that. I'm sorry I just decided to use the word 'clown' to describe all of the above.

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