I love how everybody says "Tommy Hearns would beat this guy and that guy blablabla"

raskat

I just read again how a guy said "the only guy I can see give Roy Jones trouble is Tommy Hearns". I see it all the time here: nobody could beat Mayweather, but Tommy Hearns maybe.
Or: Hearns would kill Pacquiao. Hearns would beat this guy, and that guy and blablablabala.
listen guys: Hearns was a good fighter. but. he lost all his big fights. against Hagler and against Ray Leonard. and Iran Barkley iced him twice. So pleeaaassseee stop overrating Hearns. thank you.
Do I think he can give a lot of guys big troubles? Yes. Do I think he would beat everybody from other eras? hell no. He lost the big fights in his own era. Knocking out a Duran who moved up in weight doesn't do it for me. Hearns is wayyyy overrated here on this site.

Exciterx30

Ok, so my post bothered you so much that you had to make a thread about it? Okay, I wanted to give you the benefit of the doubt by posting an honest opinion but I see I wasted my time. Good luck with this thread.

raskat

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Originally Posted by Exciterx24

Ok, so my post bothered you so much that you had to make a thread about it? Okay, I wanted to give you the benefit of the doubt by posting an honest opinion but I see I wasted my time. Good luck with this thread.

no, it didnt bother me. but it triggered something. Cause I been reading the same stuff here for a long long time. Hearns would be the one to beat Pacquiao. Or "Hearns would beat Mayweather." Or "Hearns would beat SRR"
Or Hearns would beat everybody.
So many people don't even understand that Hearns lost almost all his big fights in his own era. And now suddenly Hearns would beat everybody from OTHER ERAS? this is crazy. If the opponents of his own era could overcome Hearns' skills and everything he brought to the table, then what makes you think people from other eras couldn't do that?

ModernTalking

One thing forsure....health would come first for Floyd if being pitted against Hearns

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Originally Posted by raskat

no, it didnt bother me. but it triggered something. Cause I been reading the same stuff here for a long long time. Hearns would be the one to beat Pacquiao. Or "Hearns would beat Mayweather." Or "Hearns would beat SRR"
Or Hearns would beat everybody.
So many people don't even understand that Hearns lost almost all his big fights in his own era. And now suddenly Hearns would beat everybody from OTHER ERAS? this is crazy. If the opponents of his own era could overcome Hearns' skills and everything he brought to the table, then what makes you think people from other eras couldn't do that?

Almost but not all of them. And are you comparing the fighters from that era to today's? Zzzzz

onetwopunch

Iran Barkley, Hearns was past his prime loosing to Hagler and Leonard?...so he lost to possibly 2 of the best middleweights to ever lace them up..thats nothing to be ashamed about. He beat Benitez and Duran thats enough to rank him up there with the best...He is not overated at all..

Mato o Muero

I kind of agree with you. His height and length would give any welterweight problems, but I think sometimes people just assume he'd beat everybody because of it. He did lose to shorter guys he wasn't unbeatable. Hearns was great though.

Exciterx30

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Originally Posted by raskat

no, it didnt bother me. but it triggered something. Cause I been reading the same stuff here for a long long time. Hearns would be the one to beat Pacquiao. Or "Hearns would beat Mayweather."
Or Hearns would beat everybody.
So many people don't even understand that Hearns lost almost all his big fights in his own era. And now suddenly Hearns would beat everybody from OTHER ERAS? this is crazy. If the opponents of his own era could overcome Hearns' skills and everything he brought to the table, then what makes you think people from other eras couldn't do that?

Okay, I'll give it another shot and, by the way, I'm not a fanboy of any fighter. I just call it like I see it and I could be wrong. I just mentioned Hearns and Jones, any other fighters are not relevant to the original discussion. I think that, based on styles, Hearns vs. Jones would a be a competitive fight that could go either way. I also mentioned that Hagler, stylistically speaking, is the toughest matchup for Jones. I could be wrong, but that's how I see it.

bezza89

The main reason people pick Hearns over Floyd is because of his jab. Floyd rarely shows a weakness but it's common knowledge that Floyd is a lot less comfortable against guys with good jabs. Hearns has an ATG jab!

-Antonio-

You don't think Hearns would kill Pac? If Hearns was around today Floyd and Pac would not be messing around at 154 or even 147.

Exciterx30 El Intocable Bass Machine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Puerto Rico Age: 30 Posts: 3,837 Rep Power: 37 Points: 11,262,053,703.19 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 11,262,053,703.19 Donate	Ok, so my post bothered you so much that you had to make a thread about it? Okay, I wanted to give you the benefit of the doubt by posting an honest opinion but I see I wasted my time. Good luck with this thread.

ModernTalking Undisputed Champion Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 5,427 Rep Power: 17 Points: 5,214,959.14 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 5,214,959.14 Donate	One thing forsure....health would come first for Floyd if being pitted against Hearns .

onetwopunch Undisputed Champion Join Date: Apr 2005 Age: 38 Posts: 1,469 Rep Power: 11 Points: 31,524.83 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 31,524.83 Donate	Iran Barkley, Hearns was past his prime loosing to Hagler and Leonard?...so he lost to possibly 2 of the best middleweights to ever lace them up..thats nothing to be ashamed about. He beat Benitez and Duran thats enough to rank him up there with the best...He is not overated at all..

Mato o Muero Banned Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 754 Rep Power: 0 Points: 20,499.99 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 20,499.99 Donate	I kind of agree with you. His height and length would give any welterweight problems, but I think sometimes people just assume he'd beat everybody because of it. He did lose to shorter guys he wasn't unbeatable. Hearns was great though.

bezza89 Amateur Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0 Points: 10,408.85 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 10,408.85 Donate	The main reason people pick Hearns over Floyd is because of his jab. Floyd rarely shows a weakness but it's common knowledge that Floyd is a lot less comfortable against guys with good jabs. Hearns has an ATG jab!

-Antonio- -Antonio- Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 23,186 Rep Power: 84 Points: 7,290,736.54 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 7,290,736.54 Donate	You don't think Hearns would kill Pac? If Hearns was around today Floyd and Pac would not be messing around at 154 or even 147.