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Old 11-25-2012, 12:13 PM
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Oscar wasnt a catchweight
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Old 11-25-2012, 12:15 PM
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none of them were unfair, they were just stupid
and Oscar wasn't a catchweight, he demanded Pac come to 147
agreed.

Cotto catchweight turned out to be pointless. Same with JMM.

Margarito was only at 150 since the crooked ass WBC decided they can fight for the vacant 154 pound belt, otherwise the fight would have been at 147.
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Old 11-25-2012, 12:16 PM
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The question I always ask is who should Pacquiao have fought instead and when?

As far as Cotto goes, if Manny had beaten him at 147 I think the same arguments could and certainly would have been made about Cotto weakening himself to make welterweight.
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Old 11-25-2012, 12:16 PM
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All of them obviously. And de la Hoya was at 147 which is not a catch weight friend.

Cotto catch weight was a disgrace and goes to show PACfraud thinks he's bigger than boxing. He forced Cotto to come down and came fo the ring last even though Cotto was champion. Cotto was having trouble with 147 that's why the catch weight.

Margarito fight was shameful altogether and the catch weight made worse if that's possible. That bum had trouble with 147 two years before the fight then got punished with Cotto and annihilated with Mosley then suspended for more than a year in which he was 190 pounds when off. He also was no longer conditioned as much to getting punched which is why his face broke.

Marquez catch weight was the most deplorable. Pacquiao and his crazed lunatic fans say he was at 147 but could still easily do 130 because he had to eat 10,000 calories an hour just to be 147. They hate Floyd for bringing Marquez up to 144 but forgive PACfraud for doing the same even though they say he would have no problem fighting him at 140 and PACfraud still got his face boxed.

Conclusion manny success is all smoke and mirrors. Stay far away from Floyd, a career high payday isn't worth the humiliation he will endure.
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Old 11-25-2012, 12:22 PM
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I should have put catchweight in quotes. The ODLH fight obviously was at the welter limit, but I refer to it as a catchweight because people backwards rationalize it as Pac draining ODLH.
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Old 11-25-2012, 12:25 PM
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His opponents agreed to it.
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Old 11-25-2012, 12:31 PM
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Marquez because it was a **** fight and the CW added to the ****tiness.
Same with the Margarito fight
Cotto CW fight was crappy because he fought Oscar at the full welterweight limit just 2 fights before.
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Old 11-25-2012, 12:39 PM
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Marquez because it was a **** fight and the CW added to the ****tiness.
Same with the Margarito fight
Cotto CW fight was crappy because he fought Oscar at the full welterweight limit just 2 fights before.
Yep. And even more shameful is he wanted to fight Mosley at 140. Until he saw Mosley get his ass kicked by Floyd.
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Old 11-25-2012, 12:41 PM
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Predictable thread..
Mexicans going to point out DLH
Philipinos going to say all was fair
Puerto Ricans going to say Cotto
Blacks or floyd fans going to say everybody was unfair.
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Old 11-25-2012, 12:56 PM
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None of the CWs were unfair in the sense that they could have beat Pac without the CW. Its more having beef with Pac for feeling the need to request them, not that there is any concrete evidence it benefited Pac.

Cotto for instance had problems with Clottey at 147, and Pac destroyed Clottey. It just shows Pac is operating at the next level, and Migues isnt superman whether he is allowed to weigh 147 or 145. It was not the difference between him winning and losing against Pac.
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