Current Wladimir vs the Best Version of Mike Tyson

[ArtThouFurious?]

Originally Posted by Freedom.

Wladimir Klitschko is better than Buster Douglas. Better than Kevin McBride and Danny Williams too.

Mike Tyson is very overrated.

Originally Posted by SpeedKillz

this whole post = WTF KINDA CRACK IS YOU SMOKIN?!?!

this is laughable at best. roflmao...

Originally Posted by ADP02

I think you misread the question. He asked, "What if Tyson was at his best ...." Tyson was definitely NOT at his best against McBride and Williams. The only one that may be disputable was against Douglas but some say he wasn't for that fight either BUT I give Buster full credit as Tyson was still a threat and could have changed it around at any moment. Either case, that version of Buster would have given anyone trouble.

While I do agree that Tyson is somewhat overrated by some on these forums, when he was regarded as "the best", fighters were scared of him. A scared Wladimir would spell trouble. Even if you say he wouldn't be scared ..... Wladimir would fight very tentative and then eventually get KOed. Actually, being tentative would be his only option because if Wladimir would open up, Tyson would win by KO early on in the fight.

Wladimir's only chance is that his height, reach, jab and holding would be enough to frustrate Tyson like some other smaller fighters.

but "the best version" of Tyson would be much more athletic and bring so much more to the table than anyone that Wladimir has ever faced that I do not see Wladimir winning. The only way this would last 12 rounds is if Wladimir goes and stays in survival mode for 12 rounds .... and that too would be tough.

Originally Posted by House of Stone

come on freedom, sometimes you post well but bringing up those guys is just silly. Tyson didn't train and was out getting drunk and banging hookers in the nights leading into the douglas fight ... the willams and Mcbride fights were him completely shot ... why not bring up Berbick in every ali thread, marciano in every louis thread or lebedev in every jones jnr thread? .... (eg I reckon Tommy Morrison beats prime ali because berbick beat ali. come on dude don't post **** like that if you want to be taken seriously)

I mean if you want to talk about those guys beating past it mike why not talk about mike beating a far less than past it holmes who is a million times better than anybody wlad every fought and possibly better than wlad himself?

I mean you say wlad is better than those guys and thats fair enough but is Tyson worse than brewster, puritty or sanders?? I can asure you the wlad that lost in all three of them was in far better shape than the tyson that lost in any of the three you mentioned.

These fights are about the two guys meeting at their best so we are talking about the wlad of the last couple of years versus the tyson of holmes/spinks. Not the tyson of mcbride in the same way as not the wlad of puritty.

eg talk about the tyson that fought spinks versus the wlad that fought haye

[El Gato Negro]

Tyson by KO

[-Kev-]

Originally Posted by CubanGuyNYC

I've addressed similar topics several times over the years. Suffice it so say that I believe Mike Tyson, at his very best, was capable of beating any heavyweight that ever walked the face of the earth.

Except for Douglas, who beat a prime 24 year old Tyson.

[HardSpar]

Originally Posted by -Kev-

Except for Douglas, who beat a prime 24 year old Tyson.

That wasn't Tyson at his best no where near, he wasn't preparing for the fight right and was even getting knocked down in sparring.

[jose830]

Prime Iron Mike was unstoppable.

[yoz]

Originally Posted by HardSpar

That wasn't Tyson at his best no where near, he wasn't preparing for the fight right and was even getting knocked down in sparring.

Oh really ...

[croz]

This is the same forum that thinks RJJ at HW would beat David Price so I'm not surprised by the result.

[-Kev-]

Originally Posted by HardSpar

That wasn't Tyson at his best no where near, he wasn't preparing for the fight right and was even getting knocked down in sparring.

How good could you be if you're no longer at your best at 24 years old. If Tyson was going through wars since he was 15-15 like a Mexican, it would be more believable. Nobody ever gives Douglas any credit, his motivation was his mother's then recent death. It's all about Tyson. In losing or winning it's all about him, Douglas not being intimidated had nothing to do with it.

[HardSpar]

Originally Posted by -Kev-

How good could you be if you're no longer at your best at 24 years old. If Tyson was going through wars since he was 15-15 like a Mexican, it would be more believable. Nobody ever gives Douglas any credit, his motivation was his mother's then recent death. It's all about Tyson. In losing or winning it's all about him, Douglas not being intimidated had nothing to do with it.

It's not about being 'no longer at your best' anyone can have an off night due to bad preperation, being in the wrong state of mind and just generally fuking about instead of doing your best. Being in your physical prime doesn't mean your gonna be at your best.

Douglas does deserve credit and respect though he fought a great fight but keep it real.

[Miburo]

Hard one to pick if you're really being objective. Either could be slightly favored.