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Old 11-09-2012, 04:20 PM
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What I wanna know is.... does he think we should have bombed an unmanned island first?
I said it probably would have been better to drop the bomb on an island with little to no people. But they didn't even surrender after we bombed them the first time, so it likely wouldn't have made a difference.
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What I wanna know is.... does he think we should have bombed an unmanned island first?
literally LOL'ing....
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Old 11-09-2012, 04:23 PM
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There may have been a better way to do it, like drop the bomb on an island with little to not people at all.

But had we not dropped the bombs, we would have been forced to invade Japan to end the war. Estimates at the time said close to 1 million US troops could have been killed invading Japan. Plus, we dropped the first bomb and killed thousands of people, but they still didn't surrender.........dumb move on their part to be perfectly honest.

But we should have dropped the bomb on an island with little to no people first, and then had they not surrendered, it's fair game then.

But you have to think what the President was thinking at the time. We could invade Japan and lose hundreds of thousands, close a 1 million, US troops. Or we could drop the bomb on Japan and end the war now.

So they can have bad feelings towards the US, but their own dumb ass government didn't surrender after the first bomb. That wasn't our fault. Do you think the US government is really going to sacrifice hundreds of thousands of US troops, in a war that already cost thousands of US lives, when we could have dropped a bomb on them and ended the war??? What would you have done in the Presidents position??? Invaded Japan, taken more than a few years to win and end the war, and sacrifice hundreds of thousands of the US lives. F**k that...

You mess with the bull, you get the horns.
What about the Korean and Vietnam wars?
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I said it probably would have been better to drop the bomb on an island with little to no people. But they didn't even surrender after we bombed them the first time, so it likely wouldn't have made a difference.
Whats the point of that i dont get it
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Whats the point of that i dont get it
It's kinda like when you flinch at someone in HS.... you know.

Flinch at em, son.
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It's kinda like when you flinch at someone in HS.... you know.

Flinch at em, son.
I thought it is kinda of like punching a crippled student to get the message across to the real bullies
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IMO the bombs were dropped for 2 reasons.

Avoid the nightmare of invading Japan and the US casulties.

Send a message to Stalin to not have ideas of taking Western Europe when the Germans were finished. I am pretty sure that The Russians would have pushed through the British and US troops and taken Western Europe if it were not for the threat of nuklear attack.
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They had due time to surrender though, they didn't. That was a dumb move.
Many historians disagree. The schock of the atomic bomb was huge and the consequences must have been hard to fathom. Furthermore the jap decisionmaking had to go through the emperor and since we are dealing with a people wanting to die kamikaze style rather than surrendering, it is in my view understandable that a capitulation without a fight, is a difficult decision to make.
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"Sure Pearl Harbor wasnt a nice thing"

wow.
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Old 11-09-2012, 04:31 PM
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I guess we should have invaded Japan, which would have resulted in at the least hundreds of thousands of the US lives. Yeah, good call.....
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