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View Poll Results: who's better p4p
Ward 50 79.37%
Donaire 13 20.63%
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Old 10-14-2012, 06:19 PM
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Old 10-14-2012, 06:21 PM
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it's a legit question..dont just vote, back it up..
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Old 10-14-2012, 06:23 PM
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Old 10-14-2012, 06:28 PM
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champions or ex champions or future champions they beat

ward got dawson (going down in weight), froch, abraham, and kessler..(no p4p fighters when ward fought them )...then he got green , sakio bika, miranda

nonito got darchinyan, mthalane,tyson marquez and narvaez (going up in weight),syrodenko, montiel, mathebula and nishioka (2 p4p fighters when nonito fought them).. nonito got maldonado, rafael concepcion and raul martinez

so quantity and quality nonito got this
You use P4P as it is somehow a relevant non completely opinion based ranking. I use P4P for the top 3 fighters. Everywhere else there is going to be much debate. Quality wins are guys in your division. Ward has single handily beat all the quality good/great fighters in his division and did a majority of it in less than 2 years. That's ****ing insane.

If you want to talk about weight issues Donaire is clearly bigger than most of his opponents, if not all of them. Ward isn't that big for his weight class.
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Old 10-14-2012, 06:34 PM
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You use P4P as it is somehow a relevant non completely opinion based ranking. I use P4P for the top 3 fighters. Everywhere else there is going to be much debate. Quality wins are guys in your division. Ward has single handily beat all the quality good/great fighters in his division and did a majority of it in less than 2 years. That's ****ing insane.

If you want to talk about weight issues Donaire is clearly bigger than most of his opponents, if not all of them. Ward isn't that big for his weight class.
ofcourse it is relevent as it measures the quality of the opponents based on the accomplishments of the fighters.....insane my ass, he was favored to win the super six from the start...

oh he's bigger? ..that argument is so stupid .. we have a weight class for a reason ..you ever think it's harder to cut weight than gain weight?..
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Old 10-14-2012, 06:36 PM
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with the hate nonito is getting right now , this poll be a blow out...
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Old 10-14-2012, 06:42 PM
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Ward has a great resume.... winner of the super 6, he pretty much cleaned out 168 lbs... he's gritty and grinds out his opponents... not much charisma and his style is kinda boring (almost Ruizesque... almost)

Donaire has it all... speed, flash, skill, heart, charisma... the only thing I think he hasn't done is clean out a division like Ward has... if he were to clean out 122 lbs, He'd definitely be higher p4p than Ward by a wider margin
Donaire's cleaned out 112, and didn't really have comp at 115 either. Hasnt 118 or 122 yet, but pretty dominant over top level comp. And legit champ at 122, remember Rigo's much less proven than Bute was before Froch.
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Old 10-14-2012, 06:43 PM
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Dawson could easily be considered the best recent win any fighter has had all things considered.
How so? How's it any better than Montiel, or even Froch/Kessler for Ward?
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Old 10-14-2012, 06:47 PM
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How so? How's it any better than Montiel, or even Froch/Kessler for Ward?
Ward is a SMW and not just beat but beat up and made the number 1 LHW in the world quit just after Dawson was off of a win over Hopkins an old Hopkins but he beat Hopkins more convincingly than anyone previously had.
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Old 10-14-2012, 06:49 PM
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with the hate nonito is getting right now , this poll be a blow out...
LOL..Good try at the excuse but ain't nothing wrong with the poll results
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