Seth Mitchell vs. Chris Arreola: who would win?

[New England]

Originally Posted by Superflo777

By "the planet" do you happen to mean the United States?

do you seriously think the HW championship has not lost some of it's shine?


i dont even need to get into the strength of the current era.

or the fact that the best large athletes the world play basketball and football in america...

[Light_Speed]

Originally Posted by dan_cov

You think Mitchell hits harder than Walker?

I wouldn't say he hits harder but his power is up there. Let's not act like Walker is the 2nd coming of Earnie Shavers.

[Eaner0919]

Originally Posted by BostonGuy

Who knows what shape Arreola is in after taking off 2012. Mitchell is always in good shape and is the more active fighter.

he's about 245-250

[Freedom.]

[QUOTE=New England;12592842]do you seriously think the HW championship has not lost some of it's shine?[QUOTE]Are you basically saying "if it ain't American, it ain't right"?

There are more active American heavyweights than in all European countries combined.

USA:

http://boxrec.com/ratings.php?countr...us=A&SUBMIT=Go

Ukraine:

http://boxrec.com/ratings.php?countr...us=A&SUBMIT=Go

Russia:

http://boxrec.com/ratings.php?countr...us=A&SUBMIT=Go

UK:

http://boxrec.com/ratings.php?countr...us=A&SUBMIT=Go

[Big Dunn]

Originally Posted by Eaner0919

he's about 245-250

so he's right on his mendoza line-15-20 lbs lighter and Mitchell would be in trouble IMO but 15-20 lbs heavier and he's gonna be in trouble.

[Light_Speed]

Originally Posted by Freedom.

Are you basically saying "if it ain't American, it ain't right"?

There are more active American heavyweights than in all European countries combined.

USA:

http://boxrec.com/ratings.php?countr...us=A&SUBMIT=Go

Ukraine:

http://boxrec.com/ratings.php?countr...us=A&SUBMIT=Go

Russia:

http://boxrec.com/ratings.php?countr...us=A&SUBMIT=Go

UK:

http://boxrec.com/ratings.php?countr...us=A&SUBMIT=Go

There goes the NFL theory...

[Big Dunn]

[QUOTE=Freedom.;12592861][QUOTE=New England;12592842]do you seriously think the HW championship has not lost some of it's shine?

Are you basically saying "if it ain't American, it ain't right"?

There are more active American heavyweights than in all European countries combined.

USA:

http://boxrec.com/ratings.php?countr...us=A&SUBMIT=Go

Ukraine:

http://boxrec.com/ratings.php?countr...us=A&SUBMIT=Go

Russia:

http://boxrec.com/ratings.php?countr...us=A&SUBMIT=Go

UK:

http://boxrec.com/ratings.php?countr...us=A&SUBMIT=Go

you didn't answer new england's question. do you think the hwt title has lost alot of its shine?

[New England]

[QUOTE=Freedom.;12592861][QUOTE=New England;12592842]do you seriously think the HW championship has not lost some of it's shine?

Are you basically saying "if it ain't American, it ain't right"?

There are more active American heavyweights than in all European countries combined.

USA:

http://boxrec.com/ratings.php?countr...us=A&SUBMIT=Go

Ukraine:

http://boxrec.com/ratings.php?countr...us=A&SUBMIT=Go

Russia:

http://boxrec.com/ratings.php?countr...us=A&SUBMIT=Go

UK:

http://boxrec.com/ratings.php?countr...us=A&SUBMIT=Go

i got to fights all the time, bro. i see these guys. it's mostly fat guys with zero talent that wouldn't have an iceberg's chance in hell of being a professional athlete in any other sport.



other than wlaidmir, david, and vitali, most it it aint right. it's a sh#t division, and now it's migrated to europe. take from it what you will.

[Superflo777]

Originally Posted by Big Dunn

i mean the planet.

obviously if the HWT champion is a non entity in north america there is a problem. wouldn't you agree?

So you really know how many people watch the heavyweight championship on the entire planet? Sure there were peak times as with Tyson (who was more entertaining, not more talented than the current champiosn) but there were other times when heavyweight wasn't that popular just like today. It isn't like the past was only sunshine and roses.

Not sure what you mean with "is it a problem if it's a non entity in North America" but if you mean, if it matters wheter the current champion is American or not, it doesn't really matter. Americans still fight for titles and Americans still watch the fights.

[Freedom.]

Originally Posted by Big Dunn

do you seriously think the HW championship has not lost some of it's shine?
you didn't answer new england's question. do you think the hwt title has lost alot of its shine?

In the USA, yes it obviously has lost it's shine.

But overall, the division is strong with the Klitschkos, Haye, Boytsov, Glazkov, Price, Fury, Pulev, Abdusalamov, etc.