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Old 09-10-2012, 02:56 AM
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Below Average article.

The vast majority of the boxing pundits gave Pacquaio credit at the time of the Cotto win. Just like the vast majority of the boxing pundits give Ward credit BUT also made sure to put in the information of Chad coming down to SMW.

The only guys crying about Cotto and Chad are the boxing fans that post on forums like this and the East. Posting on sites like this is very fun and at times can be informative and at times you meet with some great posters, but we as posters do not hold any weight when it comes to rankings, win credits, or ATG status. We are just semi trolls and semi hard core fans of boxing that like to express our opinions from time to time. Nothing we say matters, it's just fun to read and past the time with.

As for nobody complaining about Dawson and weight drain? I sure as **** am reading a LOT more complains about Dawson being drained then when Cotto fought and lost to Pac.

but there is no complaining from the same people who slam Pacquiao over draining opponents. This is the hypocrisy, the so called people who say they are not pacquiao haters but always blame him for draining fighters are giving Ward full credit, I thought they were against fighters coming down, if Pacquiao were Ward and he fought a guy coming down in weight they would say its a BS fight. But for some reason Ward is okay in their book, just not Pacquiao. They would even discredit the win saying the guy pac fought was dead and say the guy didnt throw a jab, and find all excuses, but with Ward his win was spectacular and he took Dawsons jab away even though Dawson never threw much punches or jabs in that fight.
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Old 09-10-2012, 02:58 AM
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Old 09-10-2012, 03:04 AM
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Old 09-10-2012, 03:05 AM
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but there is no complaining from the same people who slam Pacquiao over draining opponents. This is the hypocrisy, the so called people who say they are not pacquiao haters but always blame him for draining fighters are giving Ward full credit, I thought they were against fighters coming down, if Pacquiao were Ward and he fought a guy coming down in weight they would say its a BS fight. But for some reason Ward is okay in their book, just not Pacquiao. They would even discredit the win saying the guy pac fought was dead and say the guy didnt throw a jab, and find all excuses, but with Ward his win was spectacular and he took Dawsons jab away even though Dawson never threw much punches or jabs in that fight.
That is 100% expected. The people who bash Pacquaio have agendas, the people who bash Floyd have agendas.

They are not really fair in their analysis of boxing and should be ignored.

Here is some examples when it comes to 'agendas and hypocrisy'.

1-
Calzaghe Haters-
Joe Calzaghe keep fighting in Wales. What a Welsh Rabbit, afraid of flying.
Andre Ward fights in Oakland BUT IT'S OK because he never needed the judges.

Calzaghe Nut-Huggers
Now the opposite end of the spectrum. IT IS OK for Joe to fight a shot past prime Roy Jones, IT IS NOT OK for Ward to call out Joe.

2- Klittards who hate Mike Tyson.

Mike Tyson never avenged ANY OF HIS DEFEATS. He quit like a coward in various fights.

IT'S OK FOR VITALI to quit, his shoulder was broken. It's ok for Wlad to never avenge his defeats.

Klit- Haters
Wladimir and Vitali have cleaned out a **** ASS HORRIBLE HW DIVISION.

Joe Louis is an ATG, he dominated his division.....
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Old 09-10-2012, 03:07 AM
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That is 100% expected. The people who bash Pacquaio have agendas, the people who bash Floyd have agendas.

They are not really fair in their analysis of boxing and should be ignored.
You sir just won the thread. Green K and some points coming your way.
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Old 09-10-2012, 03:10 AM
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The difference is apples and oranges.

Cotto said he didn't want to fight at 145 unless the title wasn't on the line. He eventually caved because Pacquiao was the shot caller and that's just how it is in boxing.

Andre Ward wasn't saying Chad Dawson's name. Chad called Andre out and readily offered to fight him in Oakland at 168.

I don't have an opinion on either guy being weight drained because they signed the contracts knowing it would be a challenge to make the weight. If they misjudged that's their fault and no way should it make their loss less legitimate, and thus it shouldn't make their opponent's win any less credible.
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Old 09-10-2012, 03:25 AM
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Lol why is anyone even surprised.

It doesn't matter how good pacquiao is, what challenges he faces, who he beats, there is ALWAYS going to be people faulting him and wanting.... Someone else.

And we all know the reason why.
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Old 09-10-2012, 03:37 AM
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Lol why is anyone even surprised.

It doesn't matter how good pacquiao is, what challenges he faces, who he beats, there is ALWAYS going to be people faulting him and wanting.... Someone else.

And we all know the reason why.
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Old 09-10-2012, 03:49 AM
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