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Old 08-20-2012, 01:00 AM
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The adjustment is very easy for Pac to make, he showed he can box well in the middle when he fought David Diaz he waited patiently and played counter puncher, he didn';t chase because he didn't take the lead.

Anytime Pac tries to attack he sets up the story for the whole fight, his opponent will just run back. When he waits patiently and just uses his footwork he becomes impressive and can sneak awkward angled punches that you can;t see.

Pacquiao seems to have ADD, he looks bored, unless there is a real threat he will fight wild and chase guys, and he throws punches while going forward which is VERY easy to counter, you never throw or lunge agianst mover ever, he cut them off with your feet because they can time and predict your punch coming making it easy to step back or side step.

This is why I think Freddie Roach is not a good match for Pac, Roach gets too much credit but the truth is Michael Moorer was a much better coach for Manny, go watch 24/7 Hatton vs Pacquiao, Moorer was the eyes and the strategist who was correcting Pacs flaws and always reminding Pac of Hattons moves and to use counters. Roach was just the mitt man.

Roach has hindered Pacs growth, this is why I consider Pacman one of the greatest natural self taught fighters, he has beaten guys who have a higher ring IQ and technical boxing than him without a real trainer.

Watch old videos of Pac hitting the mitts with Buboy before they got with roach, Pac uses the same punch combos that he uses with roach even before he got with Roach.

Roach would never have been this famous or great if Pac never walked in his doors.
David Diaz??this guy can't box to save his life.Manny has talent but no teacher.how can your trainer teach you stuff he never learned???
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Old 08-20-2012, 01:10 AM
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he's not one dimnetinal fighter...it's just that there is a style that troubles everyone..

floyd vs pressure fighters does'nt look that good either, it happens
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Old 08-20-2012, 01:14 AM
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What's with this place going full retard the last two days with Pac/May threads?
Its the last hurrah for these Pacquiao fans. They can't jump on Donaires bandwagon. Now its the Filipino LW that they have their sites on, lmao.
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Old 08-20-2012, 01:19 AM
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Its the last hurrah for these Pacquiao fans. They can't jump on Donaires bandwagon. Now its the Filipino LW that they have their sites on, lmao.
who's hyping up gesta ? there are a few pinoy fighters that are better than gesta like cuello , servania, melindo etc.. hell, even casimero is better than that fool
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Old 08-20-2012, 01:23 AM
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he's not one dimnetinal fighter...it's just that there is a style that troubles everyone..

floyd vs pressure fighters does'nt look that good either, it happens
No he is 1 dimensional...if you r not in 1 spot so he can hit you.he taps his gloves together and gets frustrated..Floyd can adjust mid fight
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Old 08-20-2012, 01:27 AM
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No he is 1 dimensional...if you r not in 1 spot so he can hit you.he taps his gloves together and gets frustrated..Floyd can adjust mid fight
well, floyd looked lost vs pressure fighters...is he one dimentional as well?
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Old 08-20-2012, 01:40 AM
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well, floyd looked lost vs pressure fighters...is he one dimentional as well?
No he adjusted and won.Manny makes 0 adjustments
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Old 08-20-2012, 01:45 AM
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Floyd cant cut off the ring either.

He's never really had to do it. Almost always on the backfoot or on the inside.
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Old 08-20-2012, 01:46 AM
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No he adjusted and won.Manny makes 0 adjustments
i know he won..what kind of adjustment was he making when he fought baldomir? ..he only ran ...and i did'nt see him looking that good vs chavez , castillo 1 or hoya in the first 8 rounda before oscar gassed
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Old 08-20-2012, 01:47 AM
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No he adjusted and won.Manny makes 0 adjustments
To say manny doesn't adjust is wrong he just can't cut off the ring but he can adjust he's just crap against good "boxers" he can make you lead he can lead he'll draw your counter to open with his own flurries all kinda stuff but movement he doesn't do well against he's also very good at adjusting to angles and creating more off of there's unless its to his right side. But every one has flaws hell if that's the case Frazier is one dimensional.
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