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Old 03-23-2011, 09:13 AM
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Being a hall of famer doesn't make you an all time great....Ramirez does make the A side of the HOF though, barely. (Assuming you split the HOF into an A side and a B side) Actually I'm not sure he makes the A side. But he's at the top of the B side at the very least!
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Old 03-23-2011, 09:34 AM
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Duran's infighting style was much different than Chavez's. he would grab and maul a lot, wasnt super active. Chavez was one of the best at being able to create distance and go to work with short punches that were difficult to counter. The reason Whitaker was able to nullify a lot of Chavez's infighting is because he would attack a lot and put Chavez on the defensive...same with Meldrick Taylor. Duran didnt attack that often on the inside, especially at lightweight, and Chavez would have been able to go to work more.

so I maintain it would be about equal on the inside.
Duran would also move in and out, he'd often throw punches on the inside in spurts, everytime Chavez would try to get off (and he did take his time) Duran could be out of there or mauling him to prevent him from getting any good shots in. Thats how Pernell was able to nullify his attack, Chavez was not able to land effectively on him as he went to the outside as he tried to start getting off. Also note that Chavez was fighting on near-even terms with Roger Mayweather on the inside, yes Mayweather was good on the inside but if Chavez was as good as you claim he would of had no problems with a long-bodied good fighter like that, Duran is a whole other animal.
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Old 03-23-2011, 12:52 PM
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Old 03-23-2011, 12:59 PM
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Duran would fight Chavez's fight & that would draw out proceedings, & make things more competitive than they needed to be, but eventually the fact that Duran did damn near everything better than Chavez comes to the fore. Duran by a 9-6 type decision. Chavez was a beast at LW, & he would welcome this challenge, but Duran was just his superior everywhere (except maybe heart).
Chavez had a better chin. Duran was dropped by De Jesus and Chavez easily walked through Rosario's punches. Rosario hit harder than De Jesus. I'd give this fight to Duran though.
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Old 03-24-2011, 12:08 AM
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Chavez had a better chin. Duran was dropped by De Jesus and Chavez easily walked through Rosario's punches. Rosario hit harder than De Jesus. I'd give this fight to Duran though.
You are right --- I would also give Chavez the nod where their whiskers are concerned. It's definitely one of precious few advantages, however.
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Old 08-19-2012, 04:04 PM
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Roberto Duran would have his hands full with Julio Caesar Chavez for the first half of the fight, but he would take control with his aggressiveness and subtle defense for a strong 15 round unanimous decision.
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