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The most dangerous cities in America, 2012

By Michael B. Sauter, Douglas A. McIntyre, Ashley C. Allen, Alexander E. M. Hess, Lisa Nelson and Samuel Weigley | 24/7 Wall St.com – Tue, 12 Jun, 2012 3:07 PM EDT
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New FBI data shows that violent crime rates are improving across America, but among cities with the highest crime problems, murder rates continued to rise in 2011. The FBI finds that violent crime dropped 4% in 2011, compared with a 5.5% drop in 2010. Nationally, the murder rate fell 1.9% from 2010, and robbery, forcible rape and assault fell 4% each.

Yet a 24/7 Wall St. review of 2011 FBI crime data shows that violent crime rose in more than half of the cities that have among the highest rates in the country. In seven of the 10 cities, murder rates increased. In eight of the 10, burglary went up.

See full report: The most dangerous cities in America.




Strained budgets are forcing police layoffs that many cities cannot afford to make. More than half of local police departments that responded to a national survey reported cuts in the 2011 fiscal year, according to the Police Executive Research Forum, an organization of police executives from across the country. Many are cutting police forces through planned layoffs and attrition. More than half of the cities with the highest violent crime rates are cutting law enforcement budgets and police forces as well. However, unlike the national picture, the situation is worse for these cities, which depend on tax bases that are shrinking faster than most.


The most dangerous city: Flint, Mich. (Photo: Jessi *AfterImage* / Flickr)
The cities with the highest crime rates tend to have particularly high poverty rates, high unemployment and low median income. Two of the worst-off cities, Flint and Detroit, Mich., both have had well-publicized budget woes. Flint was taken over by an emergency city manager after failing to pay its bills in 2011. Detroit is facing similar budget problems and recently came to a temporary oversight agreement with the state.

While the Detroit Police Department reported no budget cuts for fiscal year 2012, the city is planning a 15% cut next year. Detroit also has one of the highest crime rates in the country.

On its Web site, the FBI cautions against using crime data to compare city violence because rankings tend to be simplistic and ignore factors that influence crime, as well as the different ways crimes are measured and reported. “Data users should not rank locales because there are many factors that cause the nature and type of crime to vary from place to place,” the FBI warns.

Congressional Quarterly, which publishes and analyzes FBI crime statistics each year, referred to crime rate in terms of the “safest” and “most dangerous” cities. However, the publication recently dropped the terms “safe” and “dangerous” because of the concerns of criminologists, Dr. Rachel Boba Santos told 24/7 Wall St.

Despite these objections, Dr. Boba Santos said the data is useful to get a feel for the needs of a particular community and to look at a specific city’s trends on a year-over-year basis. She said the data also is used at the federal level to determine funding resources for different communities, comparing crime rates.

Based on the FBI’s Uniform Crime Report, 24/7 Wall St. identified the 10 U.S. cities with populations of 100,000 or more with the highest rates of violent crime per 1,000 residents. Using the estimated populations and crime incidents from UCR, which measures incidents of eight types of violent and nonviolent crime for 2011, 24/7 Wall St. calculated the incidence of the four types of violent crime per 1,000 persons for that year: murder, forcible rape, robbery and aggravated assault. In addition to crime data, 24/7 Wall St. reviewed median income and poverty rates for these cities from the U.S. Census Bureau for 2010, the most recent available year. We also included average 2011 unemployment rates for these cities, provided by the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

These are the five cities with the highest rates of violent crime.

5. Memphis, Tenn.
Violent crimes per 1,000: 15.8
Population: 652,725
2011 murders: 117
Median income: $37,045
Unemployment rate: 11.1%

In 2011, Memphis defied the national trend of declining crime rates in major U.S. cities. The rate of violent crimes per 1,000 people increased, from 15.4 to 15.8. This was the product of increases in murders, which rose from 89 to 117 cases, and aggravated assault incidents, which rose by 100 cases. A rising unemployment rate, which grew 1.2% to 11.1% in 2011, likely has not helped to reduce criminal behavior.

4. Oakland, Calif.
Violent crimes per 1,000: 16.8
Population: 395,317
2011 murders: 104
Median income: $49,190
Unemployment rate: 15.6%

Oakland historically has been among the most crime-ridden cities in California, with a violent crime rate this year of 16.8 per 1,000 people. There were 14 more murders in 2011 than in 2010, causing Oakland to maintain the ninth-highest murder rate in the country two years in a row. Oakland is the number one city for both robbery and motor vehicle theft rates in the country. Oakland city councilmember Desley Brooks, who wants to allocate $11 million in revenue to the police force, acknowledges the increased violent crime, saying, “we cannot ignore that we have had an increase in violent crime, and so we cannot continue to do the same thing the same way and expect that it’s going to be a different result.”

3. St. Louis, Mo.
Violent crimes per 1,000: 18.6
Population: 320,454
2011 murders: 113
Median income: $32,688
Unemployment rate: 11.7%

Although the total number of murders in the city has decreased by 31 since 2010, crime in St. Louis did not improve overall last year. Violent crime rates in St. Louis have risen dramatically, from 17.5 to 18.6 cases per 1,000 people. And the city’s murder rate is still the fourth highest in the nation, its robbery rate is the fifth highest in the nation and its aggravated assault rate is third highest in the nation. Despite these troubling facts, the St. Louis Police Department recently faced potentially drastic budget cuts that may require the elimination of 100 street-patrolling officer positions through attrition.

2. Detroit, Mich.
Violent crimes per 1,000: 21.4
Population: 713,239
2011 murders: 344
Median income: $25,787
Unemployment rate: 19.9%

Long regarded as one of the poorest cities in the U.S., with a 32.3% poverty rate and nearly 20% unemployment in 2010, Detroit has the second-highest violent crime rate in the country. Homicide increased by 11% in 2011, while robbery and aggravated assault are fourth and second highest in the country, respectively.

In response to an 18% decrease in the Detroit police budget, which will result in the elimination of 380 positions through attrition and early retirement, the city has begun taking steps to decrease police funding by introducing “Virtual Precincts.” The plan, which closes police stations between 4 p.m. and 8 a.m, requires citizens to report non-emergency crime to a call center, and frees up more patrol officers to respond to 911 emergency calls.

1. Flint, Mich.
Violent crimes per 1,000: 23.4
Population: 102,357
2011 murders: 52
Median income: $22,672
Unemployment rate: 18.9%

According to the FBI, no city with more than 100,000 residents had a higher violent crime rate than Flint. In 2011, there were 2,392 incidents of violent crime in Flint, which has a population just above 100,000. That same year, there were just 1,246 violent crimes in all 10 of the safest cities in America — which have 13 times as many residents as Flint among them. Flint has the second-highest murder rate and the highest rates of aggravated assault, burglary and arson in the nation. According to Flint Mayor Dayne Walling, “there are too many guns on the street and it’s easy for individuals with evil motives to take another human being’s life.”

Though the violent crime has long been a problem in Flint, in 2010 the city laid off 20 of its 140 police officers, a decision that diminished both the police’s street presence and response times to crime.
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0users liked this commentPlease sign in to rate a Thumb UpPlease sign in to rate a Thumb Down0users disliked this commentFrank Solis • San Antonio, United States • 28 days ago
I think to get to the bottom of this matter, you have to first study the demographics of each city, along with social issues such as employment opportunities, and educational outreach. Sadly, much crime is related to drug and alcohol abuse, along with having people in dire economic situations.
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0users liked this commentPlease sign in to rate a Thumb UpPlease sign in to rate a Thumb Down0users disliked this commentPeter • Chicago, United States • 19 days ago
EH ...where's Chicago in all this ?
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5users liked this commentPlease sign in to rate a Thumb UpPlease sign in to rate a Thumb Down0users disliked this commentThewaz • 1 month 18 days ago
Like the pregant girl how got stabbed over 24 times in Charollete nc by a ex-con . I have a solution there are criminals (animals) who have admitted to cold blooded murder. Those that fall into this catorgery , have a lottery and those that win 1000 a year take them out to sea tie there hands... More
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0users liked this commentPlease sign in to rate a Thumb UpPlease sign in to rate a Thumb Down0users disliked this commentA Yahoo! User 25 days ago
I absolutely love your idea of justice. A life for a life is also my idea. However, let's not waste time with hypotheticals, such as the tying of hands, or the pushing into the ocean and whatever. Let's get to business and destroy these scumbags quickly, emotionlessly, with absolute accuracy. After... More
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5users liked this commentPlease sign in to rate a Thumb UpPlease sign in to rate a Thumb Down0users disliked this commentCatwoman • 1 month 18 days ago
Three letters, folks; CCW
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4users liked this commentPlease sign in to rate a Thumb UpPlease sign in to rate a Thumb Down0users disliked this commentHere's To You • Pittsburgh, United States • 1 month 18 days ago
And they want to shut off thousands of street lights in Detroit to save money? You might as well buy a gun and shoot yourself before someone else does it for you if you live in Detroit.
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0users liked this commentPlease sign in to rate a Thumb UpPlease sign in to rate a Thumb Down0users disliked this commentAndy 1 month 17 days ago
you shouldn t have to get use to it..but i understand

1users liked this commentPlease sign in to rate a Thumb UpPlease sign in to rate a Thumb Down1users disliked this commentMichelle 1 month 18 days ago
Hahahaha, That is hilarious El Da Da. I live in Flint and for as long as I can remember I just avoid certain areas and situations and I feel safe, and I am a white female. When you live here you ger used to it.

0users liked this commentPlease sign in to rate a Thumb UpPlease sign in to rate a Thumb Down4users disliked this commentEl Da Da 1 month 18 days ago
...so based on as long as you can remember huh...ok then that validates it all, its form memory...lol memory of your cousin living outside of detroit ok gotcha, i'm clear now. you should do a HIStory of detroit, based on your cousin living outside of detroit...yep, you should...no really...
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9users liked this commentPlease sign in to rate a Thumb UpPlease sign in to rate a Thumb Down1users disliked this commentVictor • 1 month 20 days ago
Demo Party Ladies will be fitted for "Burkas" first and their daughters will be pulled from school. Demos converting over to "Sharia Law" and to "Mooslime Bros". Our Christian God not ala will save our great USA. Vote all in office, out of office. Vote independent.
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Too bad the Marx Brothers aren't runnung for office.Groucho would be a good cannidate

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Come on Ray.. YOSIMETE SAM? Is that the Hispanic Version?
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11users liked this commentPlease sign in to rate a Thumb UpPlease sign in to rate a Thumb Down2users disliked this commentDan The TEA Man • Leesport, United States • 1 month 19 days ago
It would be interesting to know if these five cities also have high percentages of illegal aliens. The city I work in is loaded with them, and the crime rate has skyrocketed accordingly.
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@ Michelle..most people who start a sentence with "I don't wanna sound racist...." is generally racist

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I live in Flint and we don't have a higher percentage of illegal aliens. I don't wanna sound racist, but a majority of the population is African American followed by White, then Mexican/Hispanic.

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@Dan the TEA Man: You have a high percentage of "illegal aliens" in Leesport, PA...? And I have a hard time believing that a lot of illegal immigrants are committing *violent* crimes (the crime category that puts cities on lists for being dangerous). Illegal immigrants are constantly trying to stay... More
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7users liked this commentPlease sign in to rate a Thumb UpPlease sign in to rate a Thumb Down1users disliked this commentBEN • Miami, United States • 1 month 19 days ago
All of these cities have one thing in common - high unemployment. But then again, who would hire a street thug or murderer?
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we should do like sweden, mandatory gun control. everyone has to have a gun, then they can protect themselves
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6users liked this commentPlease sign in to rate a Thumb UpPlease sign in to rate a Thumb Down1users disliked this commentSwamp Fox • 1 month 19 days ago
violent apes begat violent apes!!!!
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4users liked this commentPlease sign in to rate a Thumb UpPlease sign in to rate a Thumb Down1users disliked this commentAbaris • 1 month 18 days ago
One other stat they forgot...or just didnt include because of the backlash of the perceived insinuation...cultural: White, Black, Hispanic, Asian. Actually the proper order would be from most to least: Black, White, Hispanic, Asian
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In Detroit's case, it never made a come back after the riots, but the liberals will have you believe if they just throw more money at unions it'll all be ok.
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1users liked this commentPlease sign in to rate a Thumb UpPlease sign in to rate a Thumb Down0users disliked this commentCoffeeaddict10 1 month 17 days ago
That's how the Pointes are, nice to live in, can't go out and grocery shop though.

0users liked this commentPlease sign in to rate a Thumb UpPlease sign in to rate a Thumb Down0users disliked this commentMichelle 1 month 17 days ago
I grew up in Flint, I live about 10 minutes south now in Fenton, its a world of difference just 10 minutes away.

1users liked this commentPlease sign in to rate a Thumb UpPlease sign in to rate a Thumb Down0users disliked this commentCoffeeaddict10 1 month 17 days ago
born and raised, moved out after the violence in the area was just too much.
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Blacks, death, and destruction. Nothing will ever change.
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No wonder the racist comments. Ugh!
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Detroit has ALWAYS been bad in regards to violent crimes even when the economy their was at it's peak. My cousin was a teacher in a Detroit school and ended up retiring after being throw down two flights of stairs by two eighth graders.

What amazes me is that Obama does NOTHING for these people, but yet they will vote for him again.


Every one of these dumps are long time Democratic strongholds.
I think most Americans would have been able to guess some of the cities that are on the list. No matter what the FBI thinks when you have over 2 murders per hundred like Detroit, don't move there!!

I can't believe CHICAGO didn't make it on the list of the top 5....the murder rate there has been astonishing....


I was listening to the Chicago Police Department scanner a while ago. Three people shot at one location, nine shots fired at another location, a group of gangbangers fighting at a BP gas station, a strong-arm robbery, a carjacking at gunpoint, an assault and battery in the street, a drunk woman... More
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Surprised Chicago's not on there, unless I'm an idiot and missed it.
I saw one of the comments asking the same question so no, it wasn't and you're not.
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Chicago and Milwaukee are usually really high up on these lists. Surprised to not see either of them, especially considering we hardly had a winter and people were outside much later in the year.
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I remember seeing a stat last year or the year before where Chicago had more murders in a month than there were American soldiers killed in Iraq and Afghanistan that same month.
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I remember seeing a stat last year or the year before where Chicago had more murders in a month than there were American soldiers killed in Iraq and Afghanistan that same month.
somebody in one of the comments said "there are 2 murders per every 100 people" in Chicago. I don't know if that's true BUT DAMN if it is.
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