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View Poll Results: Do you agree with the p4p glass jaw rankigns
Yes 7 17.95%
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Old 08-12-2012, 01:48 AM
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Another thing.

HEART AND RECOVERY ABILITY have jack **** to do with chins.

Wladimir got amazing heart, and Kirkland got good recovery abilities.

Trinidad got GREAT recovery abilities, that does not erase his average-below average chin. It really doesn't.
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Old 08-12-2012, 01:51 AM
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IF YOU DO NOT AGREE WITH THE RANKINGS.
Please tell me who should be higher, lower, off the list,
on the list. Thank you all so much.


I got into boxing only a few weeks ago, since then I have watched over 600+ fights.

Other then loving Anthony Joshua, my 2nd love when it comes to boxing is chins. I love checking chins and seeing who got a 'weak chin', I have discovered a list of the worst possible chins in boxing atm. Here is current

p4p Worst Chins in boxing, active fighters.

1- Amir 'King' Khan
This guy got no chin. None. I watched 8 of his fights and this guy got the worst chin in boxing. It is surreal to me how he managed to make millions and be one of the most famous boxers in the world with such a chin. He was rocked by a variety of punchers, semi punchers and journeymen. He also was doing the Bambi Leg dance in 2 different fights, Prescott and Garcia. That being said, I really really like Amir and think he still got a good-very good future depending on his trainer. But his chin is disgustingly weak.

2- Roy Jones Jr
I only recently started watching boxing, so I don't know Roy Jones's past histories that well. It don't matter, since this is CURRENT P4P Glass Jaw rankings. Roy got by far the 2nd worst chin in boxing atm. He was rocked and dropped by a Polish Taxi Driver who had a grand total of 4 knockouts in like 30 fights. The Pole had the weakest fists in the 175+ Divisions and still managed to drop Roy. His chin is gone. I fear for his health also, the accumulation of knock outs by the likes of Tarver, Johnson, Green, etc are too much. I heard he's fighting a legit young Prime CW next, expect Kayote to knock out Roy Jones Jr. Most likely Cold. That being said, everyone seem to love Roy and I will watch some of his 90's fights to figure out what exactly went wrong.

2- Jermaine Taylor
Tied with Roy Jones Jr. I really like his style but for now he is in a dog fight with Roy for that p4p 2 spot. I expect him to actaully TAKE OVER the #1 spot from Amir within his next 3-4 fights.



3-Enzo Maccarinelli
The only reason he's not #1 is because he have stop fighting big punchers because he realize he is harboring one of the worst jaws in boxing. I don't wanna talk to much about this guy, it's depressing.

4- Allen Green.
This guy needs to retire, he's a long way from p4p top 2 spot on this list, but I see him surpassing Enzo with the lack of fights Enzo will soon be taking.

5-Lucian Bute
This guy was actually KNOCKED OUT years ago and his jaw was exposed, but when I watched that fight, refs saved him. Carl Froch made it so refs can't even help him up. Lucian is fighting another puncher next, expect him to get wobbled but not dropped because that puncher is a borderline journeyman. That being said, Lucian can drop out of the p4p rankings if he UD Froch without getting dropped or hurt in the rematch.

6-James Kirkland
It's debatable if this guy should be 5 or 6 or even 3. I feel Kirkland's chin is actaully EVEN WORST then people thought, I can't wait for him to fight a huge puncher so everyone can realize he is truely p4p top 2 contenter. But for now, he's gonna have to sit at 6.

7-Audrey Harrison.
Only reason he's so low is because of his lack of fights, wait for him to content for p4p 1-3 after he fights Price.


8- Zab Judah.
Zab's chin have actaully improved, hence his drop in rankings. I wish I was watching boxing live at the time his chin was truely top p4p stuff, but it has gotten a little stronger.

9-Wladimir Klitsechko
The lone ATG on the list, it is a testimoney to his amazing trainer and his ability to adapt that he have managed to become an ATG HW with the worst chin out of any ATG Hw's in the history of boxing.

Wladimir got no chin, none. There was a stretch of time when he was the lone undisputed p4p #1 in glass.
Purrity, Sanders, Brewster and Peters dropped a combined 14 times. That is shocking. Wladimir did display the courage and ability to stand up again and again, only to be knocked down. Weak Chin>then Strong Will. It is proven.

That being said, he have adapted and is now using his vast physical advantages and his jab-grab-jab-grab-clinch tactics to protect the fragile jaw.

I expect Wladimir to drop out of the p4p glass rankings real soon, it is disputable that he should be on the p4p list even now.
A future Wilder right hand though could very well elevate him up to top 5 p4p.
We shall see
It's tough to do lists like this because some of these fighters had solid to decent chins in the past but because of the punishment they have taken it has impacted their ability to absorb punches. When you look at Roy Jones, he never had a great chin but the punishment over the years has turned his chin to glass. Same with Taylor, he had a pretty solid chin but has taken to many shots.

When you look at a guy like Khan or Judah, they always has bad chins.
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Old 08-12-2012, 01:53 AM
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It's tough to do lists like this because some of these fighters had solid to decent chins in the past but because of the punishment they have taken it has impacted their ability to absorb punches. When you look at Roy Jones, he never had a great chin but the punishment over the years has turned his chin to glass. Same with Taylor, he had a pretty solid chin but has taken to many shots.

When you look at a guy like Khan or Judah, they always has bad chins.
GREAT POST. You should be a chin checker yourself. I 100% agree with you. That being said this is a current list. Even with my limited boxing knowledge outside of chins, I still realize Roy used to have a good chin, but right now he got the 2nd worst chin in boxing (at the known level).
Yes, zab and Khan were always fragile in the chin area, and as they get older expect them to get even worst.

Khan though got such great abilities, he can overcome his insanely weak milk chin and go on to have an Hall of Fame like career.
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Old 08-12-2012, 01:56 AM
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I also realize a number of these fighters are loved by many and I like to APOLOGIZE for indirectly insulting them because of their chins.

They are all good to Great fighters with one ATG (Wladimir). I 100% respect them and their fans. I love them all. That being said, I can not let my personal feelings and my gentle nature to conflict with my line of work.
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Old 08-12-2012, 02:04 AM
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Kirkland has great heart and recovery ability but his chin is most certainly below average. His track record proves this.
I don't think it's his chin Easy. I think it's his non-existent defense. He's so focused on attacking he easily gets hit with counter shots, and he gets very careless in there at times. Like he did with Ishida, he got caught when he was over confident and didn't see the punch. That doesn't mean he has a bad chin though, I've seen(and I'm assuming you too) Kirkland take monstrous shots and didn't go down.

He doesn't have a god like Margarito chin, but he's definitely not one of the worst imo.
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Old 08-12-2012, 02:05 AM
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Khan has a glass neck, you can see it in his fight against García.
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Old 08-12-2012, 02:12 AM
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Godawful list from someone that obviously doesnt follow boxing. It's like you picked those names at random. Allan Green? Klitschko? Who hasn't been stopped in eight years?
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Old 08-12-2012, 02:20 AM
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Godawful list from someone that obviously doesnt follow boxing. It's like you picked those names at random. Allan Green? Klitschko? Who hasn't been stopped in eight years?
Haha. Did you like not READ anything I wrote regarding Wladimir? I said he is the ONLY ATG on the list and it is HIGHLY debatable weather he should be on the list in the first place.


But to deny that he have anything other then a weak chin is quite frankly? Offensive to me. Wlad got away with his weak chin because of
1-His immense physical size
2-His amazing octo-Wlad defense in which Manny Steward has taught him.
3- The lack of true one punch killers in the current HW Era.

Just because you haven't been 'stopped' in 8 years due to the above 3 factors does not = chin turning into granite.

Wladimir is an ATG, but he got a disgraceful chin, deny it all you will but it is undeniable. You are only lying to yourself because you can not accept that one of your favorite fighters got a weak chin.


As for Allen Green? I'm not even gonna argue with you on that. If you think Green got a 'good chin' . lol. Ok.
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Old 08-12-2012, 02:24 AM
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I don't think it's his chin Easy. I think it's his non-existent defense. He's so focused on attacking he easily gets hit with counter shots, and he gets very careless in there at times. Like he did with Ishida, he got caught when he was over confident and didn't see the punch. That doesn't mean he has a bad chin though, I've seen(and I'm assuming you too) Kirkland take monstrous shots and didn't go down. He doesn't have a god like Margarito chin, but he's definitely not one of the worst imo.
I agree to a extend,but in that case everyone got a 'focused on attacking mentality' and NOBODY got a weak chin.

Hence chin checking is not even required. Excuses can be made for Amir Khan much easier then for Bute or Kirkland.

Prescott= Not prepared, just bombed out.
Garcia- Oh Amir was trying to KO Garcia, too aggressive
Wobbled by a variety of fighters . Oh everyone gets wobbled.

Judah- Weak Mentality etc.

Bute- Oh not prepared for the Froch in nottingham, had no idea how to deal with the pressure, not really a weak chin, just weak mentality for that fight.

you can go on and on about every single person. Chin Checking is objective tbh and you can or can not agree. Fine by me. I only do the checking. I respect all boxers and EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU POSTERS AND YOUR OPINIONS.
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