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Old 07-29-2012, 04:07 PM
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Default Was J.C Chavez Senior top ten all time?

I've seen a couple rankings where Julio Cesar Chavez was barely included in the top ten all time. How does the history section rank him? His resume surely beats today's fighters.
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Old 07-29-2012, 04:09 PM
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No.

Nor is he close.
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Old 07-29-2012, 04:13 PM
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No.

Nor is he close.
^^^^^^^^^This


And a "resume beating today's fighters" isn't saying much.
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Old 07-29-2012, 04:16 PM
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Great fighter, but not top 10 for me.
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Old 07-29-2012, 04:23 PM
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I've seen a couple rankings where Julio Cesar Chavez was barely included in the top ten all time. How does the history section rank him? His resume surely beats today's fighters.
Nope. I'm not even sure I'd have him top-10 at Lightweight considering how stacked that division has been historically. I think I may have had him as high as #10 at Lightweight from time to time but I drop him out just as often as I've had him in there.

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Old 07-30-2012, 07:23 AM
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I'm one of his biggest fans and don't think he's top ten. Top 25? Yeah, probably.

He has become somewhat underrated over time because the controversy surrounding a few of his fights has brought many to judge him very harshly. It's now believed "he was easy to outbox" by some bad revisionists because the slickest dude since Willie Pep schooled him....and that's pretty d*mn stupid people now jump to that conclusion.

He was the best fighter in the world for a few years and one of the best for over a decade.
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Old 07-30-2012, 07:29 AM
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I can see Chavez in the top 20 or top 30. But top 10 I would clearly say "no"
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Old 07-30-2012, 06:52 PM
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I'm one of his biggest fans and don't think he's top ten. Top 25? Yeah, probably.

He has become somewhat underrated over time because the controversy surrounding a few of his fights has brought many to judge him very harshly. It's now believed "he was easy to outbox" by some bad revisionists because the slickest dude since Willie Pep schooled him....and that's pretty d*mn stupid people now jump to that conclusion.

He was the best fighter in the world for a few years and one of the best for over a decade.

Heh, I love it when people say Chavez struggled against speed. Someone shoulda told him that when he beat down Camacho and Taylor x2
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Old 07-30-2012, 07:40 PM
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Heh, I love it when people say Chavez struggled against speed. Someone shoulda told him that when he beat down Camacho and Taylor x2
He lost every round to Taylor the first time round, but knocked him out at the very last second. Almost literally.

Taylor was able to shut him out because he beat him to the punch every time then moved before he could answer with punches of his own.
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Old 07-30-2012, 08:07 PM
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He lost every round to Taylor the first time round, but knocked him out at the very last second. Almost literally.

Taylor was able to shut him out because he beat him to the punch every time then moved before he could answer with punches of his own.
He didn't shut him out but he gave him a boxing lesson. Unfortunately Chavez gave Taylor an even worse beating.
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