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Old 07-26-2012, 04:22 PM
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lol but common opponent wise Pac had to drain DLH and Floyd already murdered Hatton. And Floyd took the Mosley fight after the Margarito fight while Roach didnt want to hear the name Mosley.

I cant believe how retarded you can be
No, DLH bloated Pac up 2 divisions and expected to beat the dwarf. FLoyd beat Hatton, but Pac beat him better. Pac destroyed Cotto, and Floyd beat the shop worn Cotto not as good as Pac.

Floyd beat a SSM who lost 5 times big deal, so what if SSM was coming off of a win? Thats the least floyd can do, if he dont fight often, do you expect him to get a medal for bravery or something? Did you want Floyds great comeback fight to be against someone coming off of a loss?
So Pacs got to fight superfights every fight, as well as fight much more than Floyd? You expect Pac to beat Hatton, DLH, Cotto and SSM as well one after the other?
Stop turning floyd into some kind of charity case.

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Old 07-26-2012, 04:33 PM
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Well if you dont fight much you are not going to get beat are ya? FLoyd shouldnt have been no1 anyway when Pac was beating morales and barrera and JMM, but people get things wrong it happens sometimes.

Did pac come in over weight limit....no? And common opponents its still only JMM Floyd supposedly did better, with the bloating JMM controversy though that wont go away, and Pac not only fights more and wins more than Floyd, to top it off hebeats people better than floyd as well.
he lost to morales, thats why he wasn't. Losses count right?

I don't know. Pac may have come in overweight at somepoint in his career, likely he did since every fighter deals with weight at some point.

The guys pac beat better, either floyd beat1st (odh, hatton) or were cathweight (cotto, margs).

If manny can't fight at the top weight of the division, its hard to argue he is p4p anything.
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Old 07-26-2012, 04:36 PM
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No, DLH bloated Pac up 2 divisions and expected to beat the dwarf. FLoyd beat Hatton, but Pac beat him better. Pac destroyed Cotto, and Floyd beat the shop worn Cotto not as good as Pac.

Floyd beat a SSM who lost 5 times big deal, so what if SSM was coming off of a win? Thats the least floyd can do, if he dont fight often, do you expect him to get a medal for bravery or something? Did you want Floyds great comeback fight to be against someone coming off of a loss?
So Pacs got to fight superfights every fight, as well as fight much more than Floyd? You expect Pac to beat Hatton, DLH, Cotto and SSM as well one after the other?
Stop turning floyd into some kind of charity case.
lol ok continue to believe in this weight-catch fraud, goodbye
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Old 07-26-2012, 06:56 PM
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he lost to morales, thats why he wasn't. Losses count right?

The guys pac beat better, either floyd beat1st (odh, hatton) or were cathweight (cotto, margs).

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Pac lost to Morales, but Morales is a great, great fighter. Floyd has never fought anyone as good as Morales so maybe Floyd would lose as well. Pac losing to Morales, Pac would still be above unbeaten guys like Bradley, so why not Floyd?

It dont matter that Floyd beat them first, Pac beat them better. MOst of the people floyd beat, someone beat them before Floyd did, so what does that make Floyd?

Floyd wouldnt ever beat hatton in 2 rounds. If hatton came out of retirement tomorrow and fought Floyd, Floyd probably wouldnt stop hatton in 2 rounds so stop making floyd a charity case begging borrowing and stealing credit on a tecnicality.

If Floyd was more impressive and his record spoke for itself, which it doesnt, you wouldnt have to scrape the bottom of the barrerll for Floyd like you and all floyd fans have to do. You are like salesmen trying to sell dodgy goods to people. FLoyds resume dont speak for itself, thats why you have to. Pacs does speak for itself, we dont have to boast that Pac beats people better than floyd nearly all the time, its right there and we only gloat when you cant see the wood for the trees.

Pac is no1 and floyd is arguable no2 or 3. Nothing wrong with being no2, Floyd should be proud of it, with so little work.

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Old 07-26-2012, 07:17 PM
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he lost to morales, thats why he wasn't. Losses count right?

I don't know. Pac may have come in overweight at somepoint in his career, likely he did since every fighter deals with weight at some point.

The guys pac beat better, either floyd beat1st (odh, hatton) or were cathweight (cotto, margs).

If manny can't fight at the top weight of the division, its hard to argue he is p4p anything.
I think he came in overweight twice, he lost both of those fights by way of knockout.
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Old 07-26-2012, 08:12 PM
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Sucker punched glass jaw glass heart ortiz who's best win is android berto

shot cotto who got a beating from pac and marg....

yeah let's put floyd in number 1.....

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2011 sucker punch glass heart ortiz..

2012 have a hard time with shot to **** cotto..

p4p number 1
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Old 07-26-2012, 08:52 PM
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Old 07-26-2012, 09:03 PM
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floyd, should still be #1 because they are both at ww but floyd has won more above 147 than manny at welterweight.
Floyd's fights at welterweight - 7 he should be disqualified for weight cheating Marquez and sucker punching Ortiz. So total now is 5.

Pacquiao fights at welterweight - 6

6 > 5



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Old 07-27-2012, 02:22 AM
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It looks like the Pac fans are distressed by seeing their idol being so openly exposed in this thread
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Old 07-27-2012, 02:44 AM
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Opinions are opinions and one should respect them, but I honestly can't respect a poster who has Pacquiao rated #1 on their P4P list. What has he done lately, when was the last time he actually put on a good performance? Let alone one that parallels his status in the sport. Andre Ward has been dominant against tough opposition, I can't even imagine how any writer would still have Manny ranked higher P4P. Even Martinez has put in more work, on top of that stopping his last few recent opponents. People need to get past their, I don't even know what to call it anymore but it's disgusting to say the least
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