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Originally Posted by SoggyLungs
but iraq and afghanistan turned out really well after US help....didn't they?

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In which way?
More people have died in those countries after America got involved than before. Unfortunately you only have access to western media and do not get to see what takes place there on a daily basis. Admittedly, things have calmed down now but how many years has it taken to reach this point?
In Iraq, the native army and police force that was put together by the army were known to have kidnap and in hundreds of cases openly murder a mass of innocent Sunni people for just that reason, they were Sunni.
They would openly go into workplaces, ask to see ID cards and kill anyone with a Sunni sounding name. America has not done shiz but cause a huge amount of death. Again, either directly or indirectly. This is just one story.
You're fed complete bullshiz through the western media and choose to soak it in like it's fact but the simple truth is, as a nation, both were better off as they were.
Do you even know how many are reported to have been killed?