Isnt it about we all admitted that wladimir is the greatest ever heavyweight??

[Simurgh]

Originally Posted by FrankieBruno

If Lennox Lewis has fought the pumped up cruiserweight David Haye, he wouldhave TKO'd him within 8 rounds

Wlad best fight was against Haye and he didnt impress. He has perfect opportunity to shw the world he was exciting, but he chose to be a jab jab jab clincher.

Lewis wud have beat the dog **** out of Haye, inside and outside, no amount of running around the ring wud have saved him

Thats what separated Greats from Wlad, he doesn't have the killer instinct

If Lennox at age of 39 fought today's Haye he would lost or be likely knocked out - having said that it's funny that people will talk Vitali ducked Haye if he chooses to retire and he will be 42.

Lennox wasn't really that exciting either (more exciting than Wlad, but not Tyson exciting) - especially under Emanuel. Lewis is not really known for the very good chin and if Haye catches him with the big punch he could KO him. That's why I don't really believe Lennox would go chasing Haye much more than Wlad did.

[Sweet Pea 50]

Lol.

Really?

I think Lewis would have smashed Haye's cornrows into jheri curls.

[Atreyu Khalil]

Originally Posted by slimshandy69

51 ko's over taking joe louis...hes about to surpass the most title defences of any heavyweight,one of the highest ko percentages of all time, beaten many current/ex world champions, and barely losses rounds...

Is he the greatest ever???

I think so...

Imagine what thE older school hw KO percentage would be like if they were fighting in this era?

[bojangles1987]

Originally Posted by Atreyu Khalil

Imagine what thE older school hw KO percentage would be like if they were fighting in this era?

I seriously question if any heavyweight other than the Klitschkos could last more than three or four rounds against Foreman. I seriously doubt if any could last the distance against Frazier.

Hell, Ali isn't even considered a strong puncher and I think very few heavyweights besides the Klitschkos could last the distance with him.

[UnicornGirl]

Originally Posted by bojangles1987

I seriously question if any heavyweight other than the Klitschkos could last more than three or four rounds against Foreman. I seriously doubt if any could last the distance against Frazier.

Hell, Ali isn't even considered a strong puncher and I think very few heavyweights besides the Klitschkos could last the distance with him.

In today's era? I think David Haye got a good shot at making it competitive if he wanna come to fight. Remember if guys from the 70's were in today's era they will be stronger and bigger anyways, so it's really tough with the skill advantage the 70's guys have. That being said, I honestly believe the 90's HW'S will take the 70's ones to school.

[UnicornGirl]

Originally Posted by Simurgh

If Lennox at age of 39 fought today's Haye he would lost or be likely knocked out - having said that it's funny that people will talk Vitali ducked Haye if he chooses to retire and he will be 42.

Lennox wasn't really that exciting either (more exciting than Wlad, but not Tyson exciting) - especially under Emanuel. Lewis is not really known for the very good chin and if Haye catches him with the big punch he could KO him. That's why I don't really believe Lennox would go chasing Haye much more than Wlad did.

The only thing I will disagree with is the chin. Lewis got one of the most under rated chins in HW Boxing history. He was knocked out when he was unprepared and lazy. He was caught by pole ax haye makers that would have taken down most of the ATG'S. When he was prepared he was never even floorered, Lewis took some monster shots from Vitali, Briggs,Ruddock,Grant,Tua,Bruno, all good punchers and never came close to going down.

That being said, everything else you stated was probably more or less right on. Lewis was obviously more exciting then Wlad, but he will most likely have fought cautiously against Haye.

Lennox only go to war against Super Heavyweights, it's probably an ego thing and probably because he felt the other super heavyweights didn't have the power and skills he does, so he just rush them. Against a slick fighter like Haye, Lewis would probably have jabbed him to a wide UD.

[UnicornGirl]

Originally Posted by Atreyu Khalil

Imagine what thE older school hw KO percentage would be like if they were fighting in this era?

Why don't you come right out and say 'I don't know **** about HW Boxing' so Imma just put a generic comment in here so it looks like I contributed to this thread.

[UnicornGirl]

Originally Posted by slimshandy69

51 ko's over taking joe louis...hes about to surpass the most title defences of any heavyweight,one of the highest ko percentages of all time, beaten many current/ex world champions, and barely losses rounds...

Is he the greatest ever???

I think so...

We both know you are trolling, so it's fine. Wlad is a top 15 ATG, and will finish as a TOP 10 ATG. In my opinion, but he will never be the greatest ever.

1- His era won't have given him the chance, he needs the Prime Ali's, the Prime Lewis', the Prime Tyson, the Prime Holyfield to get him the 'GOAT' Rankings, all he have is fat samuel Peter and a 50 year old Thompson.

2-He was already knocked out three times against inferior competition, he avenged one of his defeats, which was great but he really should have chased the Sanders Rematch instead of letting Vitali fight the fat golfer.

3-Wlad fight cautiously against bums, which I totally forgive because Wlad got a glass jaw, you do not want to risk the glass. But that style is not one made for 'greatest of all times'.

Overall, like I said, I believe Wladimir will finish as a top 10 ATG, ahead of Mike Tyson for sure.

[Daïa]

Great come back after 2003-2004 losses, very few would have been able to do that. Current Wlad would be a challenge for all the greats past champ.

Greatest? I don't think. Maybe prime Lennox.

[FrankieBruno]

Originally Posted by Simurgh

If Lennox at age of 39 fought today's Haye he would lost or be likely knocked out - having said that it's funny that people will talk Vitali ducked Haye if he chooses to retire and he will be 42.

Lennox wasn't really that exciting either (more exciting than Wlad, but not Tyson exciting) - especially under Emanuel. Lewis is not really known for the very good chin and if Haye catches him with the big punch he could KO him. That's why I don't really believe Lennox would go chasing Haye much more than Wlad did.

Lennox was far more exiting than Wlad and Vitali and he fought better competition.

Lennox didnt duck Vitali, he took the fight on short notice, as his opponent pulled out, thats alone tells us Lewis wasnt scared of anyone. He fought a young Vitali and went toe to toe taking and giving heavy blows.

Lennox had nothing to prove, he won and he was by that time past his cell by date and called it a day.

Vitali is indeed ducking Haye, he is the only competition out there but instead he chooses to fight bums aka Charr. If Vital retires without fighting Haye, it'll always be seen as a duck.

Haye would have never troubled Lewis, it'd have ended via uppecut to Haye's chin. Lewis was a great inside fighter so he was willing to take risks and go toe to toe, Wlad doesnt do that and thats why he was unable to finish Haye off