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Old 07-20-2012, 11:05 PM
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Margarito was going UP in weight so throw that catchweight garbage out the door. If Miguel made him go DOWN in weight, then thats a different story.
Are you saying Margarito requested the CW? It's common knowledge, the champ requested to defend his belt at 150 against a divisional scrub, and settled for 153 lmao. Do you know of any precedent for this? Help me out
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Old 07-20-2012, 11:06 PM
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damn, lost some respect for the man - im rooting for chavez jr now, even though he'll get his arse whooped
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Old 07-20-2012, 11:09 PM
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It's loads better, Pacs opposition in his 7th weight class. When is the last time he fought a guy that never held a title, much less 2 back to back? What's his last divisional opponent not ranked in top 10, like Barker?

Why did the no 1 sww Cotto ask for a catchweight against post Pac Margarito, with one good eye?
He fights whoever is willing to fight him. Don't bring up Pirog because he would have been more than happy to fight him but HBO said no way and dude isn't going over to Russia to fight him. No one will fight the guy and the dudes that he has been fighting aren't scrubs, they are very technical, well rounded boxers.

Pac is fighting top ranked guys (no pun intended) too but his team is picking guys that Pac has substantial advantages over. Margs was bigger sure but he is a straight forward fighter who has little movement and is slow as dirt.

Cotto is also an inside fighter who they made fight at a catchweight. Bradley was moving up in weight and isn't known as a power puncher, Mosley was way past his prime and has terrible balance.

Sergio is fighting prime, mostly undefeated fighters that are all bigger than him, he continues this trend with Chavez jr.
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Old 07-20-2012, 11:14 PM
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He fights whoever is willing to fight him. Don't bring up Pirog because he would have been more than happy to fight him but HBO said no way and dude isn't going over to Russia to fight him. No one will fight the guy and the dudes that he has been fighting aren't scrubs, they are very technical, well rounded boxers.

Pac is fighting top ranked guys (no pun intended) too but his team is picking guys that Pac has substantial advantages over. Margs was bigger sure but he is a straight forward fighter who has little movement and is slow as dirt.

Cotto is also an inside fighter who they made fight at a catchweight. Bradley was moving up in weight and isn't known as a power puncher, Mosley was way past his prime and has terrible balance.

Sergio is fighting prime, mostly undefeated fighters that are all bigger than him, he continues this trend with Chavez jr.
Oh there's a bunch of 168ers licking their chops, but I guess 3 div belts is too ambitious for this guy.
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Old 07-20-2012, 11:14 PM
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For Ring probably not...for Yahoo and ESPN it might...and for Cliff Rold's rankings on here I'm inclined to think it won't.

My p4p rankings have floyd ward and martinez interchangeable as top 3...Manny and JMM interchangeable at 4/5...it does a lot for my personal list, but mine entirely revolves around "what have you done for me lately."
Yeah, I hear what you are saying (figuratively speaking of course). I just can't agree with some people saying Martinez is fighting scrubs because these guys aren't scrubs. Any of Martinez' last 4 opponents are better than anybody on Chavez' resume but I'm sure there re a lot of people who somehow now have him in their personal top 10 p4p.
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Old 07-20-2012, 11:17 PM
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and many more all beat him if they were the same size. The real meaning of pfp, not your little popularity contest.
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