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Old 07-20-2012, 09:44 PM
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Old 07-20-2012, 09:58 PM
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Sergio only says Pac is no5, as he is scared if he beats Floyd, people will see him as being ahead of Floyd, but behind Pac and still not no1.

So Sergio is getting rid of the competition which he knows is Pac.
Mind games, thats all it is.
I don't know what better demonstrates your laughable stupidity...that you actually believe the things you write, or that you've been watching boxing for about as many years as your join date and still say the things you do. There is a reason no major sports outlets have Pacquiao ranked #1 anymore.
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Old 07-20-2012, 10:40 PM
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So what if Martinez destroys Chavez and KO's him in let's say 4 rounds? Does he get any respect then? I mean people talking about the fact that Pac is beating bigger guys and Sergio started at 147 and Chavez will weigh almost 180 and have a 3 inch height advantage on him.
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So what if Martinez destroys Chavez and KO's him in let's say 4 rounds? Does he get any respect then? I mean people talking about the fact that Pac is beating bigger guys and Sergio started at 147 and Chavez will weigh almost 180 and have a 3 inch height advantage on him.
Barring controversy, it is a great win for either fighter imo.
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You can't be number 2 with Martinez's recent fight history.
Are you serious? And Mannys recent fight history is superior to Martinez's? Manny's last 5 fights: 3 which Manny shouldn't even fought in the first place. Clottey after he lost to Miguel, Margarita lol?, Shane who couldn't even beat Mora? JMM who beat Manny, and Bradley. Yea, Manny's recent fight history is awesome.

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Old 07-20-2012, 10:52 PM
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Barring controversy, it is a great win for either fighter imo.
I agree but if he runs through Chavez does that do anything for his p4p status?
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Old 07-20-2012, 10:54 PM
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Are you serious? And Mannys recent fight history is superior to Martinez's? Manny's last 5 fights: 3 which Manny shouldn't even fought in the first place. Clottey after he lost to Miguel, Margarita lol?, Shane who couldn't even beat Mora? JMM who beat Manny, and Bradley. Yea, Manny's recent fight history is awesome.
I mean just look at the facts....

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Yeah, you're right

Martinez' last 4 fights:

4-0....... 3 KO's, 1 TKO

Combined opponent record coming into the fights:

127-4-0


Your case just got thrashed!
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Are you serious? And Mannys recent fight history is superior to Martinez's? Manny's last 5 fights: 3 which Manny shouldn't even fought in the first place. Clottey after he lost to Miguel, Margarita lol?, Shane who couldn't even beat Mora? JMM who beat Manny, and Bradley. Yea, Manny's recent fight history is awesome.
It's loads better, Pacs opposition in his 7th weight class. When is the last time he fought a guy that never held a title, much less 2 back to back? What's his last divisional opponent not ranked in top 10, like Barker?

Why did the no 1 sww Cotto ask for a catchweight against post Pac Margarito, with one good eye?
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Old 07-20-2012, 11:02 PM
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It's loads better, Pacs opposition in his 7th weight class. When is the last time he fought a guy that never held a title, much less 2 back to back? What's his last divisional opponent not ranked in top 10, like Barker?

Why did the no 1 sww Cotto ask for a catchweight against post Pac Margarito, with one good eye?
Margarito was going UP in weight so throw that catchweight garbage out the door. If Miguel made him go DOWN in weight, then thats a different story.
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I agree but if he runs through Chavez does that do anything for his p4p status?
For Ring probably not...for Yahoo and ESPN it might...and for Cliff Rold's rankings on here I'm inclined to think it won't.

My p4p rankings have floyd ward and martinez interchangeable as top 3...Manny and JMM interchangeable at 4/5...it does a lot for my personal list, but mine entirely revolves around "what have you done for me lately."
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