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Old 07-14-2012, 06:06 PM
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What performance says Vitali is slowing down? Chisora? That's the first time Vitali has been hit since the Lewis fight which was almost 10 years ago lol He gets hit a few times and now he's slowing down? Use your boxing sense people.

Sure he getting up in age, but not fighting.

He gets hit a tad bit more than Mayweather.

Sure Chisora had the pressure style to land on Vitali, but that doesn't mean Vitali is slowing down and Haye will be able to do the same. Haye and Chisora have two different styles. Chisora keeps his hands up and comes forward applying pressure. Haye keeps his hands down and uses movement. Two different types of fighters.

Vitali will use his reach when they're apart, take huge steps back when Haye tries to explode with his leaping left hook, and tie Haye up on the inside. He won't exchance with Haye, but fight where he's most comfortable. Which is behind that long jab and that front left foot out. If Vitali exchanged more, I would give Haye more of a chance, but he ties up as soon as he's in danger.

You couple that with the fact that the man has one of the best chins a heavyweight. He hasn't been down since he was a kickboxer in the 80's or early 90's.

I want Haye to win, but if he was smart, he'd get a rematch with Wlad. Vitali is just the wrong guy for him.

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Old 07-14-2012, 06:10 PM
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Best thing to happen is for him to fight Vit, win it, and than fight Wlad so Wlad can have all the belts.

It would be a good farewell fight for Vit even if he looses, nothing wrong being 40 grey and loosing to a guy like Haye.

P.S. But I still do not see Vit loosing, but now, I do give Haye a little bit of a chance.....but than again.......Haye aint knocking out big K.

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Old 07-14-2012, 06:13 PM
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if he doesn't fight haye whats the excuse? 'uh just cause I'm fighting some nobody for 1/10 of the money doesn't mean I'm ducking Haye'
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Old 07-14-2012, 06:16 PM
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I don't think Haye can beat either Klitschko. Been saying that since 09.

But, the only chance he has against Wlad of course is a good shot that hurts him and the only way he beats Vitali is if he keeps declining and is a shell of his former myself.

Still, the version of Vitali who fought Chisora still beats Haye, IMO.

But, I personally think Haye has a better shot now, as opposed to before where I gave him literally 0% chance.
I 100% agree with this.

Vitali even at this point still can beat Haye with his workrate, durability and size advantage but the longer Vitali continues to fight, the more likely Haye's chances of winning get better.
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Old 07-14-2012, 06:16 PM
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There are less dangerous fighters than Haye who can beat Vitali 2012.
Hopefully he retires after Charr fight and won't be silly. ..but he'll probably end up taking the fight.
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Old 07-14-2012, 06:17 PM
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if he doesn't fight haye whats the excuse? 'uh just cause I'm fighting some nobody for 1/10 of the money doesn't mean I'm ducking Haye'
haye will talk sht and show up just like he did against wlad. If im not mistaking didnt haye request to fight wlad instead of vitaly bc he was scared of him?
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Old 07-14-2012, 06:17 PM
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Chisora managed to hurt Haye I know Haye won but if he fights like that with Vitali or Wladimir he gets koed/tkoed
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Old 07-14-2012, 06:22 PM
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Chisora managed to hurt Haye I know Haye won but if he fights like that with Vitali or Wladimir he gets koed/tkoed


He won't though, will he. It will be back to single shot and run away. I doubt he outpoints Vitali doing that. It could be Haye would have to take more risks and hope Vitali's age catches up with him. I just want the fight to happen!
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Old 07-14-2012, 07:20 PM
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Since first moving to heavyweight, I've been saying that Haye's best shot at beating a Klitschko is against Vitali (which isn't to say he has a great chance)

Wlad's too cautious, controls range better, and is quicker than his brother. And his chin's not a problem if it doesn't get hit. Even if it does get touched, the fighters who have troubled Wlad's chin have done so by pressuring and landing consecutive punches. Haye never looked likely to be able to do that, and since I didn't expect Wlad to crumble the first time Haye landed a solid single shot on his chin I really couldn't see how Haye could beat Wlad.

But Vitali on the other hand is easier to hit than Wlad, especially now. Haye's footspeed and general athleticism could be more of a factor against Vitali, who looks to be slowing down and has for a while.

Having said that, Vitali has a bit more offensive variety than his brother and will certainly be more aggressive, so when considering Haye's chances the positives of course have to be weighed against the risks.
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Old 07-14-2012, 09:09 PM
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Vitali can throw 100 punches a round to,and Haye can't unload like that with Vitali cause he will have accurate punches coming back.Chisora just sucks.
Chisora aint suck, when he was bussin vitali's azz, whom Haye humiliated and stopped like it was e-zWurk
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