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Old 07-08-2012, 01:02 PM
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Default Am I the only one who thinks the Donaire-Mathebula fight wasn't close AT ALL????

I didn't watch the fight live, I finished watching it a few hours ago and before I watched it I saw here how most pple said it should have been a draw or it was a very close victory for Donaire. Then I watched it, scored it and I had Donaire winning almost all rounds. I only gave Mathebula rounds 3 and 10 and I scored the 5th and the 9th a draw. But that was being generous to Mathebula. The commentary was extremely biased, they made it look like Mathebula was controlling the fight, winning rounds (that he wasnt winning AT ALL), doing good in the fight.
Donaire was the aggressor and landed the hard shots in all rounds basically. From what it looked to me, 90 % of the punches of Mathebula were not landing. The punchstats are a complete joke, as always.
So my eyes saw a one sided fight which Donaire won. And my ears were hearing from the HBO commentary it is basically an extemely close fight which can go either way. So I did the math and then realised that the reason why pple on this forum here say it was a draw or very close is that you guys are totally and absolutely INFLUENCED by the commentary, as always.
And no, I am not a Donaire fanboy, I actually thought the Donaire vs Vazquez Jr fight should have been something like a draw cause Vazquez was landing clean hard jabs on Donaire ALL NIGHT LONG. And that is something Mathebula couldnt do AT ALL. Donaire's defence worked very very well in this fight, I was actually impressed with him. (especially compared to the Narvaez, Vazquez fights)
Looks like HBO is trying to get back credibility by commentating "against" the housefighter (Donaire) after being criticized in the past for always commentating in favor of the housefighters (Pacquiao,Mayweather)
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Old 07-08-2012, 01:09 PM
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Scored Mathebula 115-112 Donaire...... Scored Vazquez 118-109 Donaire
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Scored Mathebula 115-112 Donaire...... Scored Vazquez 118-109 Donaire
you mean you had Mathebula winning the fight and Vazquez winning almost every round against Donaire?
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Old 07-08-2012, 01:14 PM
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Mathebula won only one round clearly (9-th), so you can end up even with 119:108 scorecard, but Donaire also had only 4 clear rounds so I wouldn't even complain if someone scored it for Mathebula. It was very close fight, clear example of fight when one guy is landing more and other guy lands heavier.
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Old 07-08-2012, 01:19 PM
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Mathebula won only one round clearly (9-th), so you can end up even with 119:108 scorecard, but Donaire also had only 4 clear rounds so I wouldn't even complain if someone scored it for Mathebula. It was very close fight, clear example of fight when one guy is landing more and other guy lands heavier.
dude, can you tell me which punches Mathebula landed? Cause I saw him landing almost NOTHING the whole fight. The punchstats are a joke as always. 2 guys sitting ringside pressing a button each time they THINK something MIGHT HAVE landed. And they are biased also.
You say you can end up with a 119:108 scorecard for Donaire and at the same time you say you can see how somebody scores it for Mathebula? Imo you remind me of obama. he always gives 3 scorecards for one fight. bottom line is there is one fight, not 3 fights, so we only need one scorecard. You got 2 eyes, just like me. So judge each round once with your 2 eyes and give 1 scorecard.
A boxing fan who says "I can see it 120:108 for Donaire, but also 120:108 for Mathebula" should re-think why he watches this sport. Thats just my opinion.
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Apologize for the confusion...... Donaire-Mathebula 115-112 for Donaire

Donaire-Vazquez 118-109 for Donaire
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Old 07-08-2012, 01:27 PM
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dude, can you tell me which punches Mathebula landed? Cause I saw him landing almost NOTHING the whole fight. The punchstats are a joke as always. 2 guys sitting ringside pressing a button each time they THINK something MIGHT HAVE landed. And they are biased also.
You say you can end up with a 119:108 scorecard for Donaire and at the same time you say you can see how somebody scores it for Mathebula? Imo you remind me of obama. he always gives 3 scorecards for one fight. bottom line is there is one fight, not 3 fights, so we only need one scorecard. You got 2 eyes, just like me. So judge each round once with your 2 eyes and give 1 scorecard.
A boxing fan who says "I can see it 120:108 for Donaire, but also 120:108 for Mathebula" should re-think why he watches this sport. Thats just my opinion.
That's your opinion, but it's completely ignorant one.
How many times in the fight do you see 3 identical scorecards? Like 1/100? Even in very simple fights to score you'll have judges scoring given rounds differently. Does it mean that 2/3 of all judges in the world are unqualified? Boxing is not track and field athletics when you just measure the result, it's subjective and you gotta be open minded and accept that some people may see it different way than you do(to some extent). Otherwise you'll end up in your position calling every second fight a robbery.
And of course I remind you of Obama in that regard, you may say I took it from him, I will say I learned it from him.
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Old 07-08-2012, 01:28 PM
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Old 07-08-2012, 01:31 PM
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Hah man, it's always funny to see you talking like you're the only smart man around who can not be influenced by commentary .
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Old 07-08-2012, 02:03 PM
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It was a competitive fight but not necessarily close. Depends on what you look for when your scoring.
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