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Old 05-14-2012, 09:19 PM
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I first want to say that this is in no way intended as an insult or disrespect towards American Boxing or American posters on here, only towards the User Check whose ignorance is an abyss.

Here is a synopsis of Check’s brilliance with quotes from the earlier thread and i will provide the medal history along with his entertainment.

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Reality must really hurt for a twat like yourself. Consider the USA has 4 times the amount of golds in boxing than Russia, and twice as many as those three combined. You do realize the Ukraine has all of 9 medals in their history, right? NINE thats 9, 9 measly medals! You keep telling yourself that and American sports can't compete, yet they always keep finishing with the most medals. Keep that crying, you sissy ass b1tch........"WAWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA WAWAAAAAAAAAAA we have less people, we should get a pass". You pathetic twat. 2,300 medals to 1,100 you dumb ruskie.
And don't get me started on your even more putrid professional boxing history.
Now what Check doesn't realize is that Ukraine has only competed at 4 Olympics as an independent country and that the Soviet Union only started competing at the Olympics in 1952. Clearly this poor fellow is one of those children left behind by the american education system.

Summer Olympic Total Medal Count 1952-1992

USA - 982

USSR/Unified Team -1122

Summer Olympic Total Medal Count 1996-2008

Russia & Ukraine - 414 (combined population 188 Million)

USA – 406 (population 311 Million)

Russia - 318

Ukraine - 96

Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, Poland, Bulgaria, and Kazakhstan (current total population of 260 Million, US 311 Million) total medal count is 615 to America's 406.

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Yep, the number one nation in pro boxing history, and presently is getting "pwned". The number one nation in amateur boxing history, gets historically "pwned". The number one nation in olympics history, and presently is getting "pwned". And on top of that it's not getting "pwned" by just a powerhouse. It's getting pwned by the UKRAINE and all 9 of their boxing medals
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Pretty funny comment, too-shay.


Yeah, and I already pointed out Russias history in the Olympics as well. I have nothing but respect for the USSR but they are no where, nor will they ever be on par with America in sports.
Well you are right, unintentionally, as they aren’t on par with America in sports. They’re better as above shows. Now for boxing.

Olympic Boxing Medal Count 1952-2008

USA Total – 62

USSR (1952-1988), Unified team (1992), FSU (1996-2008 i only included four FSU countries Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, Kazakhstan) Total - 91

Poland had a successful Boxing history during the Soviet era and if you include their totals to the above totals the count is 128.

Olympic Boxing Medal Count 1996-2008

Russia - 20
Kazakhstan - 13
USA - 13
Ukraine - 9
Belarus - 2

USA - 13 (population 311 Million)

Above 4 FSU Nations - 44 (population 214 Million)

Val Barker Trophy Winners during this period

1996 - Vassiliy Jirov (Kazakhstan)
2000 - Oleg Saitov (Russia)
2004 - Bakhtiyar Artayev (Kazakhstan)
2008 - Vasyl Lomachenko (Ukraine)


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Yeah, nine medals. That's about all the sense you need to make it. Remember your nation has 9 medals! Yeah, come spew your non sense and I'll give you actual stats. 2,300 medals to 1,100. Hurts, doesn't it?
Yes let us look at Ukraine specifically

Population

USA – 311 Million
Ukraine – 46 Million

Total Medals Summer Olympics 1996-2008

USA - 406
Ukraine - 96 (America has just under 7x the population of Ukraine with just over 4x the medals)

Olympic Boxing Medals 1996-2008

USA - 13
Ukraine - 9 plus a Val Barker winner

P4P Ukraine is more successful than America.

But the most important thing that you need to keep in mind Check.




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He makes perfect sense. He's going at you pretty hard right now and I'm expecting a decent reply from you or he wins by UD.
Lulz Yes what sense he makes. I wasn't going to replay to this fool but your request changed my mind.

I'd like to commend Dirk and Nodogoshi who brought some common sense to Check's train wreck.

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Yep I was gonna make that point but thought it was so blatantly obvious to anyone with sense....
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The ignorance here is too much to stand.
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Boxing debuted in the Olympics in 1904. In the 1904 Olympics, only American boxers competed (there is where accounts 7 golds, 7 silvers, and 3 bronze, alone). The early Olympics were basically only attended by Americans and Western Europeans. The Soviets did not debut in the Olympics until 1952. So, you should start with 1952 if you want to compare the performances. I think you'll find that the Russians have fared considerably better.
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Old 05-14-2012, 11:03 PM
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Old 05-14-2012, 11:13 PM
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Old 05-14-2012, 11:17 PM
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so...........all hail mother Russia?
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Old 05-14-2012, 11:18 PM
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Green K for some interesting fact-finding.
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Old 05-14-2012, 11:27 PM
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Where is GB ? US has dropped off since dominating in 1984.
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Old 05-14-2012, 11:32 PM
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And why exactly are we using 2nd and 3rd place medals to pad the totals of medals won by Eastern Bloc countries?

The U.S. has won more GOLD medals in boxing and the Olympics period 1952-to present than all of Eastern Europe combined, that's a fact.

Valiant attempt though.


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Old 05-14-2012, 11:41 PM
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I bet there is lots of "low testosterone" in those Russian & former Russian countries
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Old 05-15-2012, 10:06 PM
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Where is GB ? US has dropped off since dominating in 1984.
Well i was addressing some specific claims and adding GB's stats would have required additional effort. I would be quite interested to see Cuba's stats as i suspect they would trump both in boxing medals but i didnt want to spend the time.

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Old 05-15-2012, 10:09 PM
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Good ownage there

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