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Old 05-10-2012, 08:39 AM
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Default Scan of Peterson's total+free testosterone levels b4 TRT

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As predicted many athletes have been using the TRT loophole too increase testosterone levels to help increase recovery, train more intensely,longer etc etc

563ng/dl is not low. Not even close to being low for treatment of TRT for hypogonadism where the testes no longer produce sufficient test levels too function properly.


A level of 563ng/dl is perfectly in range considering total testosterone ranges from 250-1100ng/dl on average. A teenager to 21yr old man will most likely test for the upper range at 800+ng/dl.

A 70+yr old will most likely test for the lower range 300ng/dl or lower. Not always but on average.

So Petersons test level prior too TRT use was perfectly healthy.Bear in mind high endurance training does metabolize testosterone quicker than the norm.

His free testosterone looks at the bottom of the range but thats due to high SHBG levels not due too hypogonadism.All one does is lower the SHBG level and the free testosterone levels will increase and become unbound and bioavailable.

Even your run of the mill average joe bodybuilder will know how to decrease SHBG levels so this doctor hasnt a clue in endocrinology.
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Old 05-10-2012, 08:43 AM
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As predicted many athletes have been using the TRT loophole too increase testosterone levels to help increase recovery, train more intensely,longer etc etc

563ng/dl is not low. Not even close to being low for treatment of TRT for hypogonadism where the testes no longer produce sufficient test levels too function properly.


A level of 563ng/dl is perfectly in range considering total testosterone ranges from 250-1100ng/dl on average. A teenager to 21yr old man will most likely test for the upper range at 800+ng/dl.

A 70+yr old will most likely test for the lower range 300ng/dl or lower. Not always but on average.

So Petersons test level prior too TRT use was perfectly healthy.Bear in mind high endurance training does metabolize testosterone quicker than the norm.

His free testosterone looks at the bottom of the range but thats due to high SHBG levels not due too hypogonadism.All one does is lower the SHBG level and the free testosterone levels will increase and become unbound and bioavailable.

Even your run of the mill average joe bodybuilder will know how to decrease SHBG levels so this doctor hasnt a clue in endocrinology.
Can you type the normal range and Peterson's as a comparison and also explain how to lower the SHBG levels?

Also explain your abbreviations.

Thanks.
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Can you type the normal range and Peterson's as a comparison and also explain how to lower the SHBG levels?

Also explain your abbreviations.

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When you do strenuous exercise, your testo levels drop temporarily and then increase later as your body reacts to the stress of the workout.

All of your hormones react to different stresses on the body.

Based on the TIMING of the test (for example, after a grueling workout) it is easy to "game" the system.

"Look , Doc. I'm low".
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Old 05-10-2012, 08:59 AM
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Wasn't it stated that Lamonts levels were below 4:1, and he actually has a medical issue? Now the problem is his team didn't inform anyone and so he's scarred for life.
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Old 05-10-2012, 09:01 AM
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Can you type the normal range and Peterson's as a comparison and also explain how to lower the SHBG levels?

Also explain your abbreviations.

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Sure np.

Petersons total testosterone : 563ng/dl =normal
Ranges vary from 250-1100ng/ng/dl , 233-827ng/dl (depends what lab)

Petersons free testosterone : 7.5pg/nl=low

Free testosterone range on average

* 20-29 years 9.3-26.5 picogram/mL
* 30-39 years 8.7-25.1 picogram/mL
* 40-49 years 6.8-21.5 picogram/mL
* 50-59 years 7.2-24.0 picogram/mL
* 60+ years 6.6-18.1 picogram/mL

(SHBG) or Sex hormone-binding globulin (Binds to mainly testosterone and estradiol/estrogen)

Nettle root extract,proviron lowers SHBG and couple others.

TRT: testosterone replacement therapy usually administered via injection,patch,gel,cream,pellet etc


Experience 8yrs on TRT, several endocrinlogists throughout the world.Had high SHBG also was at 68 which caused low free test like Petersons. Easy too lower SHBG but near impossible to increase it.

No respected hormone specialist, anti aging doc would ever consider administering TRT at a level of 563ng/dl. What his doc has done is basically shut Petersons testes down for life meaning he has to rely on external testosterone.

How a respected Doc would have dealt with it would be :

Lower SHBG which increases free+bioavailable testosterone
(Can increase total testosterone slightly)

Look at estradiol and if high lower it via an Aromatase inhibitor which would increase his total testosterone even though it does not need increasing.

By adding in 800mg testosterone slow absorbed pellets to his already 563ng/dl his total testosterone level would have been way above the total serum count. Eventually though his natural level of 563ng/dl would turn too around 100-200ng/dl since external testosterone shuts down natutal production of test and then his total test count would be in range as long the doc was using normal TRT dosing.

Right of to the gym...
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