Who LOST to the most great fighters?

[Barnburner]

Johnny Dundee:

Tony Canzoneri.
Sammy Mandell.
Lew Tendler.
Benny Leonard.
Freddie Welsh.

[NChristo]

Tiger Flowers:
Maxie Rosenbloom
Mickey Walker
Jack Delaney
Harry Greb
Kid Norfolk
Sam Langford
Panama Joe Gans

[hhascup]

Here's a list I made out a couple of years ago:


List of Non-HOFers, who have fought 8 HOFers or more – Blue=Wins, Red=Draws (Counting Newspaper Decisions)

This also includes Jack Blackburn and Charley Goldman, who were Inducted as Trainers and Ruby Goldstein who was Inducted as a referee.

1. Johnny Risko 12 (Sharkey, Tunney, Schmeling, Baer, Berlenbach, Loughran, Slattery, Walker, JHLewis, Delaney, Stribling, Godfrey) - (8-14-0)

2. Charley White 11 (Attell, Kilbane, Dundee, Moran, AWolgast, Britton, Ritchie, Welsh, TLewis, BLeonard, Kansas) – (7-13-2)

3. Gunboat Smith 11 (Willard, Langford, Blackburn, Carpentier, Levinsky, Dillon, Norfolk, Dempsey, Miske, Greb, Wills) – (4-17-1)

4. Memphis Pal Moore 10 (KWilliams, Herman, Lynch, Wilde, Criqui, Mandell, BudTaylor, Genaro, McLarnin, LaBarba) – (12-6-7)


5. Fireman Jim Flynn 10 (Burns, Johnson, Langford, Papke, O’Brien, Levinsky, Dillon, Dempsey, Miske, Flowers) – (4-18-2)


6. Frankie Wallace 10 (Miller, Ambers, Chocolate, Bass, Arizmendi, Canzoneri, Montanez, Berg, Montgomery, Robinson) – (2-17-2)

7. Joe Lohman 10 (Flowers, Loughran, Tunney, Stribling, Slattery, Greb, Delaney, Berlenbach, Levinsky, Walker) – (0-17-1)

8. Jack Twin Sullivan 10 (Blackburn, O’Brien, McCoy, Burns, Ketchel, Klaus, Papke, Jeannette, Dillon, Levinsky) - (2-10-3)


9. Paul Pirrone 9 (Soose, Apostoli, Steele, Walker, Corbett III, GJones, Brouillard, Yarosz, Fields) – (2-9-0)


10. Porky Dan Flynn 9 ((Klaus, Ketchell, Jeannette, Langford, Levinsky, Dillon, Norfolk, Dempsey, TGibbons) – (0-18-4) – (1 NC)


11. Mike McTigue 9 (Walker, Loughran, Sharkey, Berlenbach, Delaney, Flowers, Stribling, Levinsky, Greb) – (3-12-1)


12. Chuck Wiggins 9 (Greb, Levinsky, TGibbons, MGibbons, Tunney, Flowers, Loughran, Godfrey, Stribling) – (2-21-6)


13. Leo Houck 9 (Britton, Lewis, Klaus, Levinsky, Dillon, Papke, MGibbons, Greb, Tunney) – (9-14-2) – 2 NC)

14. Harlem Tommy Murphy 9 (Attell, Dixon, McGovern, Corbett II, Harris, McFarland, Moran, AWolgast, Ritchie) - (7-12-2)

15. Eddie Ran 9 (Zivic, Canzoneri, Steele, Kaplan, Petrolle, Yarosz, Cerdan, Battalino, Montanez) – (1-8-0)

16. Willie Lewis 9 (Carpentier, MGibbons, Dixie Kid, Klaus, Ketchel, HLewis, Papke, Gans, Langford) - (5-8-2) - (2 NC)


17. George KO Brown 9 (Greb, TGibbons, MGibbons, Miske, Levinsky, Darcy, Dillon, Klaus, HLewis) – (0-23-3) – (1 NC)


18. Jack Renault 9 (Stribling, Loughran, Delaney, Godfrey, Sharkey, Tunney, Miske, Greb, Levinsky) – (2-9-1) – (1 NC)

19. Young Erne 9(McFarland, Ritchie, MGibbons, Britton, Welsh, Corbett ll, Lavigne, Attell, HLewis) – (7-11-2)


20. Joe Mandot 9 (Dundee, Leonard, TLewis, Kansas, Kilbane, AWolgast, Welsh, Ritchie, Moran) – (3-5-6)

21. Joe Grim 9 (Levinsky, McVae, Johnson, Blackburn, Dixie Kid, Gans, Fitzsimmons, Walcott, O'Brien) – (0-13-0) – (1 NC)

22. Paulino Uzcudun 8 (Baer, Schmeling, Louis, Loughran, Walker, Delaney, Wills, Godfrey) – (2-7-1)

23. Johnny Farr 8 (Bass, Miller, Canzoneri, McLarnin, Ross, Kaplan, BudTaylor, Chocolate) – (2-20-0)


24. Georgie Abrams 8 (Robinson, Soose, Burley, Apostoli, Zale, Brouillard, Yarosz, Cerdan) - (5-4-1)


25. Eddie Shea 8 (Bass, Miller, Wright, BudTaylor, Chocolate, Arizmendi, LaBarba, Battalino) – (4-7-0)


26. Lew Massey 8 (Armstrong, Bass, MWolgast, HWilliams, Canzoneri, BudTaylor, Angott, Battalino) – (3-8-0)


27. Young Peter Jackson 8 (Griffo, O’Brien, MBSmith, Walcott, Dixie Kid, Langford, Johnson, Jeannette) – (4-16-4)


28. Soldier Bartfield 8 (Britton, MGibbons, TLewis, Greb, Papke, BLeonard, Walker, Slattery) – (8-19-4)


29. Frank Mantell 8 (HLewis, Papke, Klaus, Dixie Kid, Dillon, Levinsky, Greb, MGibbons) – (2-12-1) - (1 NC)


30. Joe Glick 8 (Dundee, McLarnin, Bass, Kaplan, Berg, Canzoneri, Corbett III, Steele) – (1-12-0) – (1 NC)


31. Matty Baldwin 8 (Welsh, Attell, Driscoll, AWolgast, Moran, Ritchie, Britton, Dundee) – (3-9-3)

32. Nate Bolden 8 (Moore, Bivins, Burley, LaMotta, Maxim, Zale, Yarosz, Marshall) – (3-12-0)

33. Bob Moha 8 (Greb, TGibbons, Levinsky, Dillon, Miske, MGibbons, Papke, Dixie Kid) – (3-14-1)

34. Tommy Robson 8 (Britton, TLewis, Greb, Delaney, MGibbons, Stribling, Flowers, Slattery) – (2-11-0)

35. Tony Marullo 8 (Stribling, Berlenbach, Delaney, Loughran, Greb, Rosenbloom, Slattery, Walker) – (0-13-0) (1 NC)

36. Gus Christie 8 (MGibbons, Dillon, Darcy, Miske, Levinsky, Norfolk, TGibbons, Greb) – (1-22-2)


37. Phil Pal Moore 8 (Driscoll, Moran, Attell, Welsh, Nelson, BLeonard, Britton, Dundee) – (3-7-2) – (1 NC)

38. Lockport Jimmy Duffy 8 (Welsh, McFarland, Britton, Dundee, TLewis, Kansas, Tendler, BLeonard) – (6-11-0)

39. Jackie Clark 8 (Slattery, Flowers, Greb, Delaney, Stribling, Loughran, TGibbons, Blackburn) – (1-10-3) – (1 NC)

40. Larry Williams 8 (Levinsky, Jeannette, Dillon, Miske, Blackburn, TGibbons, Norfolk, Greb) – (2-13-0)

41. Frankie Burns 8 (Coulon, Goldman, Attell, Kilbane, Herman, Williams, AWolgast, Lynch) – (7-8-3) – (1 NC)


42. Jimmy Darcy 8 (?) (Flowers, Berlenbach, Greb, Delaney, Stribling, Dempsey(?), Loughran, TGibbons) – (0-11-0)

[NChristo]

Joe Lohman or Joe Grim it is then going by that list, only ones I can see who lost too 9.

[hhascup]

Originally Posted by NChristo

Joe Lohman or Joe Grim it is then going by that list, only ones I can see who lost too 9.

List of Non-HOFers, who have fought 8 HOFers or more – Blue=Wins, Red=Draws (Counting Newspaper Decisions)

Frankie Wallace actually lost to 10 IBHOF'ers

Frankie Wallace 10 (Miller, Ambers, Chocolate, Bass, Arizmendi, Canzoneri, Montanez, Berg, Montgomery, Robinson) – (2-17-2)

He also lost to Miller and Arizmendi

[rorymac]

Originally Posted by hhascup

List of Non-HOFers, who have fought 8 HOFers or more – Blue=Wins, Red=Draws (Counting Newspaper Decisions)

Frankie Wallace actually lost to 10 IBHOF'ers

Frankie Wallace 10 (Miller, Ambers, Chocolate, Bass, Arizmendi, Canzoneri, Montanez, Berg, Montgomery, Robinson) – (2-17-2)

He also lost to Miller and Arizmendi

So perhaps it is Frankie Wallace. Cheers Henry, brilliant input as usual

[IronDanHamza]

Oakland Billy Smith;

Archie Moore x3
Charley Burley x2
Ezzard Charles
Bert Lytell
Jimmy Bivins
Jack Chase

[hhascup]

Soldier Bartfield fought the most fights against world champions (41). If I counted right, he lost to 11 different World Champions. His record against 12 World Champions was 8-28-5

Soldier Bartfield and Jack Dillon both fought 10 IBHOF'ers in 1 year.

Jack Thompson had 56 fights and 28 of them were against IBHOF'ers.

[them_apples]

Ricardo Mayorga

[TBear]

Suprised a few greats weren't mentioned

Archie Moore lost to
Ezzard Charles
Charley Burley
Harold Johnson
Rocky Marciano
Floyd Patterson
Muhammad Ali

Emile Griffith lost to
Denny Moyer
Benny Kid Paret
Luis Rodriguez
Rubin Carter
Don Fullmer
Nino Benvenuti
Jose Napoles
Carlos Monzon
Vito Antuofermo
Alan Minter

I know all the fighters are not great but the ones that might not be are well known