Disagree or agree on giving Floyd credit for a Martinez fight?

[shade darkar]

Originally Posted by turbotime

On paper it's probably his best win but not many are thinking Pac can win at this point. Not like when Floyd fought Corrales and more than half were picking Floyd to get Ko'd.

its his best win, if he gets it, full stop. hence the reason he has not been willing to fight pacquiao under the same rules every other fighter fights by, and the same rules floyd fought by until it was time to fight pacquiao.

[turbotime]

Originally Posted by shade darkar

its his best win, if he gets it, full stop. hence the reason he has not been willing to fight pacquiao under the same rules every other fighter fights by, and the same rules floyd fought by until it was time to fight pacquiao.

Oh stop, pacquiao tried to change up the rules to cheat proof the fight too, even before Floyd did. Floyd accepted and Pac ran. It is what it is.

[shade darkar]

Originally Posted by turbotime

Oh stop, pacquiao tried to change up the rules to cheat proof the fight too, even before Floyd did. Floyd accepted and Pac ran. It is what it is.

is what i said true?

how did pacquiao change the rules?

[turbotime]

Originally Posted by shade darkar

is what i said true?

how did pacquiao change the rules?

He wanted a 10 million per pound penalty included to prevent weight cheating.
Floyd accepted.

Floyd wanted some random blood drawn to prevent steroid cheating.
Pac ran.

[shade darkar]

Originally Posted by turbotime

He wanted a 10 million per pound penalty included to prevent weight cheating.
Floyd accepted.

Floyd wanted some random blood drawn to prevent steroid cheating.
Pac ran.

correct. do you know why they wanted 10 mil per lb?

correct. why is he only willing to fight if he gets extra testing? he wasnt interested in extra testing before?

[turbotime]

Originally Posted by shade darkar

correct. do you know why they wanted 10 mil per lb?

correct. why is he only willing to fight if he gets extra testing? he wasnt interested in extra testing before?

Because Pac didn't want any cheating

Because Floyd didn't want any cheating.

What's the problem again?

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Originally Posted by turbotime

Because Pac didn't want any cheating

Because Floyd didn't want any cheating.

What's the problem again?

I guess he was ok with his 40 other opponents cheating though.

[shade darkar]

Originally Posted by turbotime

Because Pac didn't want any cheating

Because Floyd didn't want any cheating.

What's the problem again?

no. they wanted a weight penalty because in his last fight, which was marquez at the time, he failed to make the agreed upon weight of 144. marquez got an extra 600 grand so that they could change the weight. thats why. marquez would have been well within his rights to say no fight.

and answer the question properly.

the problem is not getting the best fights.

[turbotime]

Originally Posted by shade darkar

no. they wanted a weight penalty because in his last fight, which was marquez at the time, he failed to make the agreed upon weight of 144. marquez got an extra 600 grand so that they could change the weight. thats why. marquez would have been well within his rights to say no fight.

and answer the question properly.

the problem is not getting the best fights.

So why did Pac do it to Delahoya? Delahoya never cheated weight before. Pac just didn't want to be cheated. Neither did Floyd.

For the first time Pac needed to give a little in negotiations to make a fight happen. Floyd too. Floyd was willing to concede the weight penalty to make it happen, and Pac wouldn't concede to simple blood tests.

Pac killed the fight. It is what it is.

[SkillspayBills]

Beats him at 154 it's a great win one of the best of his career. Beats him at 160 it is the BEST WIN of his career. Anything under 154 gets half credit.