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Old 03-04-2012, 02:02 AM
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Thumbs up Floyd ain't for Legacy only for money and easy, winnable fights.

First of all ask yourself, where is Floyd's legacy if he doesn't fight Pac?

When was the last time in his career he fought a p4p ranked fighter during the time of fighting his opponent without handicapping them?

Mosley
Jmm
Hatton
Those 3 can't be considered, the 2 (JMM, HAtton) are not in his weight class when they fought him hence the handicapping, and Mosely he waited to get old before fighting him. Grandpa Mosely was too old to be competitive in that fight.

Who can he be proud to say he beat a really tough guy during that time of fighting him? When?

Lastly, the greats like Sugar Ray Leonard, Marvin Haggler, Roberto Duran, Hitman Hearns all fought each other to prove who is the best in the ring. Round robin. THEY WERE CALLED THE 4 HORSEMEN. (FLOYD SADLY HAS NONE TO SAY HE DID IT WITH)

While in Pac's career he had what these Greats had. He was included in the 4 HORSEMEN OF TODAY

These are the fight Pac fought Barrera 2x, Morales fought 3x, Marquez 3x Round robin they fought. These fighters when pac fought were in the p4p list at the time he fought them


Pac has proven going up in his career he challenged the best there is. And now after beating the best the welterweight division has to offer there is only one person left and that is Floyd.




That said,

Floyd has said he doesn't fight for history means he ain't for legacy, he fights for money.

Self preservation must come first. He doesn't care about his fans or the haters he cares about his family he has to feed. He has to be careful who he fights.

Floyd Mayweather, Jr. - "I'm in the game to win; not just inside the ring, but outside the ring, and my health is more important than anything."

Bob Costas - "When you say 'your health', if the deal can be made financially, are you implying you have something to fear from Pacquiao."

Quote: "Floyd mayweather fights for Floyd mayweather... Look at the Ali situation, if Ali could take it back.. He shouldn't have taken the fights the fans pushed him to (the ones he lost). Floyd Mayweather won't be pushed into fights he doesn't want ... Without Pacquiao, Floyd Mayweather is fine."


The debate is over, floyd himself admits it. So clear.. Now we don't have to guess how Floyd thinks. It's about self preservation. He will only fight boxers he can surely win and obvious threats like Pac (the best fighter to fight) he should stay away from After all as Floyd said this is a deadly sport. self preservation is his priority doesn't have the care in the world for the glory of it the sport. How can a fan like that in a fighter??

Self preservation, family comes first.. Being great fuvk it.. But He keeps on telling himself he is the greatest lol.. Nowhere near Ali. He ain't for legacy. No super bowl glory, no nba championship game winning shot. Just coasting to make easy winnable fights to rip of boxing fans who are gullible. Legit threats ain't in Floyd's agenda. Sad but true.. After all, It came out of the horse's mouth.

IF YOU WANT TO HAVE THAT MANTLE OF GREATNESS AT LEAST YOU HAVE TO ACT LIKE IT. WALK THE WALK, NOT ALL BARK AND NO BITE. THAT IS THE OTHER BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ALI AND FLOYD. ALI PUT HIS LIFE ON THE LINE AND PROVES HE FIGHTS THE BEST OUT THERE.

BOXING IS A DEADLY IF YOU DON'T WANT TO GET HURT GET OUT OF THE KITCHEN. simple really.

Don't tell everyone you are the greatest then cherry picks fights, dodges legit opponents, picks on easy low risk fights. That is not how it works. Either you are for self preservation and calculated risk or you are in it for the glory and greatness and risk everything in the ring. Daring to be great is a mark of no fear. That is what great is all about.


If it was Ali who had to fight Pac, this fight has been made along time ago. Ali barks and barks and makes noise but he backs up what he says and fight the guy people want to see him fight. Ali walks the walk, unfortunately, Floyd just barks and makes noise and doesn't back-up what he says. he is like a noisy tin can without substance. That is not how to be the greatest Floyd.

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Old 03-04-2012, 02:08 AM
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Well most elite fighters are like that.

That is why Pac chose Margarito, Mosley, and even JMM. For an easy money not legacy that's for damn sure. However, the JMM bout bit him in the ass.
But he he was part of the 4 horsemen. He has carved a lasting impression of fighting the best out there going up in fame. These 4 were in the p4p best fighters in the world.

Floyd had none of that.
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Old 03-04-2012, 02:08 AM
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Floyd fought Ortiz when he was coming off his greatest victory vs Berto.*
He fought Mosley when he came off his greatest win vs Margarito. **
He outclassed Hatton when he was undefeated.*
He beat De la Hoya in his own weightclass at 154.*
And now he's fighting a confident Cotto at 154 after avenging his loss to Margy.. no catchweight.*
So floyd keeps proving the point that he doesn't do what Pacquiao does. Instead, he fights them on an even playing field, at their best. period.

Pacquiao fights De la Hoya at 147, a weight he hasn't made in years.*
Pacquiao fights Hatton after being exposed by Floyd.*
Pacquiao fights Cotto at a catch-weight after being damaged by Margacheato.*
Pacquiao fights Clottey after losing to the shot Cotto.*
Pacquiao fights slow Margy after being KO'd by Mosley, at a catch-weight as well.*
Pacquiao fights Mosley after Floyd breaks him mentally. *
Pacquiao fights Marquez with intentions of taking advantage of his age but gets bullied and beaten all 12 rounds. *

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Old 03-04-2012, 02:15 AM
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Old 03-04-2012, 02:16 AM
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4 horseman? The fuck is this wrestling? Are you an undercover Floyd fan? You jumped into boxing when you say "Money" May make "20 million" for beating "The Big Show" in Wrestlemania? GTFOH.
lol, you just started boxing. It's in the history. Look it up..

Watch the legends (Haggler, Hearns, Sugar Ray, Robert Duran) are the original 4 horsemen. They had man balls and they fought each other.
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But he he was part of the 4 horsemen. He has carved a lasting impression of fighting the best out there going up in fame. These 4 were in the p4p best fighters in the world.

Floyd had none of that.
The same thing can be said of PAC.
When did he last fight a p4p prime fighter at his weight? Can't JMM cause JMM was fighting at 135 not 142. Can't say hatton cause he wasn't prime. PAC does the same sh it Floyd does but u all seem to praise him
For it because he is suppose to be smaller.

Tell me this, if PAC is supposedly smaller than Floyd then why did he fight JMM at 142 and not 140? Why isn't he going down to 140to fight Alexander? Why make him sign with top rank and make him go up in weight?
Why is he willing to fight margs at 150 but not martinez who by the way is smaller then margs (I've met both and taken pics with both and margs is the bigger fighter)?

PAC and Floyd do the same exact thing the only difference is that PAC keeps his mouth shut and PAC shows more respect period . At the end of the night they are both the same when choosing their opponents.
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Old 03-04-2012, 02:23 AM
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Old 03-04-2012, 02:25 AM
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The same thing can be said of PAC.
When did he last fight a p4p prime fighter at his weight? Can't JMM cause JMM was fighting at 135 not 142. Can't say hatton cause he wasn't prime. PAC does the same sh it Floyd does but u all seem to praise him
For it because he is suppose to be smaller.

Tell me this, if PAC is supposedly smaller than Floyd then why did he fight JMM at 142 and not 140? Why isn't he going down to 140to fight Alexander? Why make him sign with top rank and make him go up in weight?
Why is he willing to fight margs at 150 but not martinez who by the way is smaller then margs (I've met both and taken pics with both and margs is the bigger fighter)?

PAC and Floyd do the same exact thing the only difference is that PAC keeps his mouth shut and PAC shows more respect period . At the end of the night they are both the same when choosing their opponents.

He still did a lot and to add 4 lineal championship belts along the way. And 7 divisions to boot.

Pac swept the welterweight divisions best. Clottey, Cotto, Margarito, Mosely even if you say they aren't all that. They are the best out there Pac should fight. Now one guy is left that is Floyd.

Bradley won't improve Pac's Legacy as Cotto won't improve Floyd's.

They need each other to improve their legacy.

This thread is about legacy.... sadly floyd ain't interested in legacy.
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This post fits us both perfectly no?
Everything is an excuse until floyd and manny get in the ring.

simple as that
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