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Old 02-02-2012, 09:46 AM
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I never read anyone call him shot.

The foreman fight was a less than impressive performace. He let a 1 legged fighter with absolutely zero pop hang for about four rounds.

Cotto is without a shadow of a doubt faded a bit from almost 3 more years of wear and tear and the sustained beating/loss to pac.


It was much more brutal ko loss than hatton's loss to floyd.
GBP put out an issue of the Ring Magazine with Cotto on the front titiled "Is Miguel Cotto shot at the age of 28" right before Pacquiao vs Cotto in an attempt to discredit the fight.


Also 99% of Floyd fans have posted/stated that Miguel had something taken out of him and wasn't the same fighter going into the fight against Manny due to the beating he took from Margarito.


Those are both facts.....but some how GBP and all of the Floyd fans are back tracking, lying and saying they never stated any of this, and saying that Cotto is a new fighter now that Floyd is facing him.

I find all of this ridiculous.....especially when most thought Cotto vs Pac II was happening...these same guys were saying it was a cherry pick and a disgrace to boxing.
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Old 02-02-2012, 09:50 AM
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Please point out exactly where in my post I said his punishment has disappeared or he's found a fountain of youth,(meaning he's better now). Don't worry, I'll wait.
The Cotto that Pacman fought came of a brutal beating & a worthless fight with Jennings, then engaged in another war with Clottey, then was forced to fight Pacman at 145.
This Cotto gets to fight fat & hasn't taken as much punishment as before due to level of opposition. They're around the same.



You flat out stated that the Cotto Manny faced took a bunch of punishment but againt Floyd he hasn't taken as much punishment.

I can't even begin to point out how contradictory a statement like that is.

Cotto will go into the Floyd fight with the same damage he had from the Marg I fight and even worse, the damage from the Pacquiao fight.

How does any of that go away due to the opponents he faced at 154........never mind, don't even bother answering as it's clear your biased and don't know sh1t about boxing.

Damage is damage regardless as to when it happened in a fighters career....just ask guys like Roach and Ali as they are still feeling the effects from fights that happened several decades ago

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Old 02-02-2012, 10:00 AM
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The Cotto that Pacman fought came of a brutal beating & a worthless fight with Jennings, then engaged in another war with Clottey, then was forced to fight Pacman at 145.
This Cotto gets to fight fat & hasn't taken as much punishment as before due to level of opposition. They're around the same.



You flat out stated that the Cotto Manny faced took a bunch of punishment but againt Floyd he hasn't taken as much punishment.I can't even begin to point out how contradictory a statement like that is.

Cotto will go into the Floyd fight with the same damage he had from the Marg I fight and even worse, the damage from the Pacquiao fight.

How does any of that go away due to the opponents he faced at 154........never mind, don't even bother answering as it's clear your biased and don't know sh1t about boxing.

Damage is damage regardless as to when it happened in a fighters career....just ask guys like Roach and Ali as they are still feeling the effects from fights that happened several decades ago
Where did I say that the punishment against Pacman & Margarito disappeared? Never said that why don't you go back & try reading & comprehending again. I also never said that the Cotto Floyd is fighting is better.

I never said any damge simply went away either. What you're doing is piggy backing of Walt who didn't understand my post either & don't even realize your assumptions are dead wrong.
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Old 02-02-2012, 10:53 AM
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He was shot but then somebody repacked him for another fire? Lol. That is just an example of how Floyd fans spin things in his favor. It's obvious from his last fight that Cotto is nowhere close to shot and if he were he wouldn't have lasted as long as he did against ole brick fist and the tazmanian devil.
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Old 02-02-2012, 11:08 AM
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Bro, if that's what you got from that post, I don't know what to tell you!
There is definitely an accumulation of utterly ridiculous arguments being made saying that cotto is better now than whenanmy fought him that are mind boggling and baffling.

You did insinuate that cotto somehow is a fresher andless shopworn fighter now.
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There is definitely an accumulation of utterly ridiculous arguments being made saying that cotto is better now than whenanmy fought him that are mind boggling and baffling.

You did insinuate that cotto somehow is a fresher andless shopworn fighter now.
No I didn't I said they were around the same. Those other *****s defending Floyd has nothing to do with me or what I posted.

With sound logic to boot. Like I said i never said he is better now, go read that again.
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Old 02-02-2012, 11:14 AM
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GBP put out an issue of the Ring Magazine with Cotto on the front titiled "Is Miguel Cotto shot at the age of 28" right before Pacquiao vs Cotto in an attempt to discredit the fight.
Also 99% of Floyd fans have posted/stated that Miguel had something taken out of him and wasn't the same fighter going into the fight against Manny due to the beating he took from Margarito.

Those are both facts.....but some how GBP and all of the Floyd fans are back tracking, lying and saying they never stated any of this, and saying that Cotto is a new fighter now that Floyd is facing him.
I find all of this ridiculous.....especially when most thought Cotto vs Pac II was happening...these same guys were saying it was a cherry pick and a disgrace to boxing.
It was a legit issue at the time, but they didnt put out another issue after theamny fight saying he might be shot, because he clearly showed he wasnt

Lol, now yall assume bushbaby is a floyd fan. Idiots.
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Cotto is not shot just because he lost a few fights.
Was Pacquiao shot after getting Ko'd twice in his career?

Great fighters always have another great performance in them.
Mosley did it against Margarito.
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Hatton had 1 fight after Mayweather and got his ass whopped. Then he fought manny. Go to google before coming on here.
You can't be serious. Hatton fought Juan Lazcano, winning a clear decision. He didn't look good in the fight. Then he beat on Malignaggi until McGirt threw in the towel.
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No I didn't I said they were around the same. Those other *****s defending Floyd has nothing to do with me or what I posted.

With sound logic to boot. Like I said i never said he is better now, go read that again.
Cotto was never a 154 lb fighter anyway. His best years came at LWW and WW.. Cotto's move to LMW was only due to old age...

And lol on his last 3 fights... He had a good run because he was fighting has beens (Marg), and mediocre to barely decent type of opponents (Mayorga, Foreman)...

The last 3 fights he had before Pac were better opponents (prime Marg, Clottey, and Jennings).. You compared to that to his ran, then obviously he is not goin' to look that good because those are tougher fights... The 3 fights he had after Pac were nothing more than recovery fights to restore what ever credibility he had left as an elite fighter..


And lol on complaining about at 145.. Cotto looked great in that fight..
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