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Old 01-14-2012, 06:48 AM
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Just look at how fast and powerful Tito is here, at 160lbs, against Joppy.



Joppy doesn't get much credit here, but he was a pretty damn solid B level middleweight. Were it not for Hopkins, it's very likely that Joppy would have been one of the top guys in that division at that time. He could box well, he had a scrapper's mentality at times, he knew how to survive beatings, and his chin was pretty damn decent.

Yet look at how easily Tito rapes him. Keep in mind Joppy was probably 170 or more in the ring on fight night.
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Old 01-14-2012, 07:01 AM
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No he couldn't, Pacquiao doesn't have half the technical ability of De La Hoya. Anyway the Oscar that fought Trinidad would spank Pacquiao like a disobedient child.

Trinidad would KO him in the mid rounds.
Sure man. When DLH was fighting he was labelled a one-handed fighter and other top fighters used to make fun of his amateurish flurries. Now in retirement he was all of a sudden a technical beast? GTFO with your revisionist rubbish. He had good boxing ability, better than the Mosley's and Trinidad's, but nowhere near the elite like Mayweather and Whitaker. He was about on par with Pacquiao in boxing ability. Like Pacquiao he'd look great against come forward fighters and not so great when guys boxed him like Quartey, Sturm, Whitaker, Mayweather, Hopkins.

Head to head Pacquiao would likely beat every version of DLH. DLH had his his jab and left hook, but an average right hand and odds on a Freddie Roach trained fighter with the physical abilities of Pacquiao ain't losing to a fighter like that, and one who has questionable stamina in the late rounds. Oscar also had poor head movement, he stood straight on and his head would've been a constant easy target for Pac's lightning left. As for Tito, we've seen how innefective he was when fighters show good movement and lateral movement and don't allow him to get set to throw his punches. He couldn't even cut off the ring and hit DLH when he was tired, how is he going to do it to a guy with much better movement, endless stamina, much faster puncher with power in both hands?

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Old 01-14-2012, 07:04 AM
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Pacquaio is a great fighter and a real good WW but Tito was one of the best this deep talent filled division ever saw, he stops Pac
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Old 01-14-2012, 07:05 AM
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A prime 147 version of Tito is very, very different than Cotto, old shot Mosley, shot Margarito and shot to ****e zombie Oscar.
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Old 01-14-2012, 07:07 AM
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Yes, and unlike Cotto, Tito would decapitate Pac if Pac fought the way he did against Cotto. If he opened his body up to shots and lay on the ropes like he did against Marg, Cotto, Clottey etc, Tito would take them over and over and unlike Cotto, who had to reserve his energy in case he gassed out too quickly, Tito could do that non stop throwing brutal body shots. He didn't gas out.

Pac's great, no doubt, but there is a major difference between Cotto and a 6 foot, prime Tito wailing on you. The power that Cotto hit him with would be like being hit by a mini cooper compared to Tito's mack-truck.
He would fight him how he fought DLH, no doubt about it. Tito would be his most dangerous opponent by far and Pac would treat him like that. No way would he be trading with Tito or staying on the ropes letting him unload on him. Tito would obliterate him quickly if he fought him like that.
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Old 01-14-2012, 07:23 AM
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Just look at how fast and powerful Tito is here, at 160lbs, against Joppy.



Joppy doesn't get much credit here, but he was a pretty damn solid B level middleweight. Were it not for Hopkins, it's very likely that Joppy would have been one of the top guys in that division at that time. He could box well, he had a scrapper's mentality at times, he knew how to survive beatings, and his chin was pretty damn decent.

Yet look at how easily Tito rapes him. Keep in mind Joppy was probably 170 or more in the ring on fight night.
I think 147-154 was Tito at his best. Joppy win was very good, Joppy may have underestimated his power and well he found out the hard way you can't afford that against Tito. Good video. However if you watch him against DLH he did struggle with the movement and the DLH constantly breaking up his rhythm with combinations. Pac could do the job


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Old 01-14-2012, 09:10 AM
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I hope that you aren't looking at the B-hop fight and trying to find some comparison to Pacman......................That's incredibly disrespectful...................to B-hop.
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Old 01-14-2012, 09:27 AM
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When Tito lands his first left hook, Pac would bang his gloves together and march forward.

After the 6th or 7th, he'd be in big trouble.
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Old 01-14-2012, 10:03 AM
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I feel Pacquiao beats 9 out of 10 pattern fighters from 147 down, capable counter punchers are a different matter.
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Old 01-14-2012, 10:24 AM
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Paciquao usually eats come forward fighters for breakfest but Trinidad is a whole other animal. He's as tough as margarito but faster, stronger and more powerful. I think pac would win most rounds til Trinidad caught him with a mean left hook.
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