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Old 01-06-2012, 04:40 PM
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is helenius good enough to beat wladdy?
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Old 01-06-2012, 04:42 PM
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he's not even good enough to beat Chisora
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Old 01-06-2012, 06:57 PM
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he's not even good enough to beat Chisora
exactly.. helenius is garbage, end of story. a slightly smaller, slightly less ugly version of valuev. dude cant fight for shiet.
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Old 01-06-2012, 07:15 PM
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He's not even good enough to carry Wlad's coat. It's funny how before the Chisora fight, most people were thinking Helenius would be a decent prospect and THE next heavyweight hope, just shows how the right promotion and hype can get a fighter fame before he is tested and proven inferior by a good fighter.
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Old 01-06-2012, 07:20 PM
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He's neither as bad as some people are saying now, nor as good as some people were saying before Chisora.

Mostly the Chisora-Helenius fight was a case of some people underestimating how good a motivated and in shape Chisora can be. He's tough -- much tougher than, say, David Haye.

Helenius did hurt his right hand in the last fight, which limited his power vs Chisora.

Helenius has two "natural" boxing gifts: heavy hands and a killer instinct.

His most glaring flaw is a lack of commitment to getting in truly great shape. That's something he absolutely HAS to remedy.

He's not ready to beat Wlad, but he's still young for a heavyweight: don't count him out in the post-Klitschko future.

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He's not even good enough to carry Wlad's coat. It's funny how before the Chisora fight, most people were thinking Helenius would be a decent prospect and THE next heavyweight hope, just shows how the right promotion and hype can get a fighter fame before he is tested and proven inferior by a good fighter.
If Im not mistaken, at least on this forum, it was mostly Klitschko fans doing the overrating. Not saying you were one of them, but I know of 4 or 5 who were touting Henius as the next great thing.
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Old 01-06-2012, 07:26 PM
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If Im not mistaken, at least on this forum, it was mostly Klitschko fans doing the overrating. Not saying you were one of them, but I know of 4 or 5 who were touting Henius as the next great thing.
He still could be a big thing, but he needs to get in much better shape first.

Size, heavy hands and killer instinct can't be taught, and he has all three.

Many people simply wrote off Chisora after he lost to Fury, but he was depressed and unmotivated after Wlad and Haye screwed him out of a title shot.

But Chisora when right is a very tough out. As Helenius learned. That version of Chisora would take care of Fury easily.

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