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Old 11-18-2011, 07:46 AM
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The biggest factor is that you have to stand your ground and be able to counter when he comes at you. He's had guys try to just counter and move, but the guys who beat him or are competitive were able to do so by backing him off in exchanges.
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Old 11-18-2011, 07:58 AM
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leave the ***** talking to pros like mak and thagreatest cuz ur insults are weak
Hmm my insults are weak, yet you call me out instead of minding your own business hah?

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Old 11-18-2011, 08:49 AM
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After watching the Mosley fight and all three of the Marquez fights again there is a clear blueprint for success against Pacquiao.
1) Don't walk towards him, let him come to you. Guys who tried to walk him down got put to sleep or had their eye socket broken, but guys who waited for him were able to nullify most of his offense.
2) Get off first. When he gets hit first is when his offense is least effective. If Marquez would have been more consistent with this step it would have been a shut out.
3) When Pacquiao tries to trade punches circle to your right and watch his left. This is how Mosley and Marquez were able to avoid getting iced.
No bro, dont circle to your right. You'll walk right into pacs left hand. Circle to your left, takes away his angle and gives you a better angle for a lead right.

-Lead rights and uppercuts pac has trouble defending

-Styles make fights, and counter punchers have great success against pac. This is why i thought cotto would win, but he didnt fight how he was supposed to. If you try and just bang it out and impose your will, you will get murked(most likely).

-With all that said, good luck winning on the cards with all the judges sipping on the manny juice, or just flat out corrupted. Brb he throws ten punches, one of them lands. Brb i throw 1 punch, and knock him on his heels. Brb mannys round.
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Old 11-18-2011, 09:44 AM
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Circle to his right, have a good right hand, and be a counter puncher.

You can beat Pacquiao now.
id say circle to his left and wait for one of the many mistakes hes makes to open up and counter the dog meat out of him... a good right hand will destroy the lil warrior also!...
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Old 11-18-2011, 10:44 AM
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After watching the Mosley fight and all three of the Marquez fights again there is a clear blueprint for success against Pacquiao.
1) Don't walk towards him, let him come to you. Guys who tried to walk him down got put to sleep or had their eye socket broken, but guys who waited for him were able to nullify most of his offense.
2) Get off first. When he gets hit first is when his offense is least effective. If Marquez would have been more consistent with this step it would have been a shut out.
3) When Pacquiao tries to trade punches circle to your right and watch his left. This is how Mosley and Marquez were able to avoid getting iced.
IMHO Erik Morales blueprint was a lot better and it did not include backing out, may take on your observation ...

1. good enough to do but must be done in spades, IMHO if you do this too much and just wait for manny, victory is not an option for you ...

2. Problem with this is PAC is fast as hell and its not easy to get off first and for some to get off at all ...

3. this is one is very good strategy
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Old 11-18-2011, 12:05 PM
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LOL, Owned! The first JMM fight is the blue print and everybody knows it. Juan Manuel Marquez just isn't as good of an athlete as Manny Pacquiao is so it was easy for Manny to overwhelm him with speed. A fighter like Floyd on the other hand is a great athlete in his own rite and can adapt to fighters as easily as JMM can. So I'm more than positive that Floyd can execute the Marquez game plan better than Marquez did.

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Old 11-18-2011, 12:09 PM
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the guy that beat him the clearest was morales, and he simply outfought and pushed back pacquiao

but the counter-puncher works just aswell, it gives everyone hell
the counter puncher style is the cheapest style in boxing, there is no real way around except to turn into a fight on the ropes(where you'll likely take alot more than you give) or play into the opponents game by trying to counter punch yourself

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Old 11-18-2011, 02:14 PM
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floyd is 3 inches longer then pacquiao, and the big shot won't happen.
that's what she said .....
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