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Old 07-23-2011, 06:01 PM
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Shiiiit, Larry has both Roy and B-Hop in the top 20-25 ATG I believe. So of course he will have Floyd in the top 10-15 ATG if he's able to accomplish this feat.


Man, oh man.
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Old 07-23-2011, 06:05 PM
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well post something to prove me wrong man
Hopkins isn't a Top 20 ATG nor is he close.

No need to even prove it, it's common sense.
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Old 07-23-2011, 06:06 PM
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Hopkins isn't a Top 20 ATG nor is he close.

No need to even prove it, it's common sense.
well prove me wrong.............
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Old 07-23-2011, 06:17 PM
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well prove me wrong.............
Sigh.....

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Theres 20 fighters off the very top of my head who are significantly greater than Bernard Hopkins and the list could go on for quite a while.

I mean, Canzoneri, Ross, Wilde, Jofre, Arguello, Monzon, Hagler, Hearns, Ray Leonard etc etc etc aren't even on that list.
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Old 07-23-2011, 06:18 PM
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I think he'd rather face Pacquiao before Sergio.
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Old 07-23-2011, 08:27 PM
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Mayweather is a great fighter. I consider him to be atleast a Top 50 ATG at this point.

If he were to beat Martinez it would enhance his legacy of course but not anywhere near the Top 15.

The history of Boxing is way way too vast.
It is extremely vast that's why I tried to use more recent fighters as examples. I really don't even like to compare the fighters of the early 1900's to today as they are often overrated because they fought hundreds of times. People overlook the fact that more than half of the time they were in with complete no hopers. Almost like a ranked sparring session.

Could Manny and Floyd fight four times a month against bums to bring up their record? Yes they could.
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Old 07-23-2011, 08:37 PM
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It's been a LONG time since a reigning Welterweight champion challenged a reinging Middleweight Champion...

Nunn vs Starling, right?
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Old 07-23-2011, 08:43 PM
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uhhhh what the fvck exactly is in it 4 floyd???

FLOYD MAYWEATHER, JR. is not a charity. Steroidgio Martinez can't sell tickets to save his life. he is a PPV disaster. that's why all his sh1t is free, and stilllllll nobody watches that sh1t!

so tell me, why would floyd give up 4 inches, and 15-20 lbs. in weight, when he'd be 100% of the drawing power????

setting the $$$ aside, what has P4P QUEEN Steroidgio Martinez done to earn a fight w/ floyd? let's see...

-- Martinez is 1-1 vs. a Paul Williams who we can all clearly sucks
-- Martinez is 0-1 vs. Margarito when he wasn't even using plaster
-- Martinez has a DRAW w/ Cintron!? hahahhahahaha.
What do you think would happen if Martinez tried to go to Showtime or get on the pitch at Yankee Stadium?
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Old 07-23-2011, 08:49 PM
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It is extremely vast that's why I tried to use more recent fighters as examples. I really don't even like to compare the fighters of the early 1900's to today as they are often overrated because they fought hundreds of times. People overlook the fact that more than half of the time they were in with complete no hopers. Almost like a ranked sparring session.

Could Manny and Floyd fight four times a month against bums to bring up their record? Yes they could.
Old time fighters aren't ranked higher (the ones that are, obviouly not all of them are) because of the people they beat, not the fact they have a high win loss ratio.

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Old 07-23-2011, 08:53 PM
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It's been a LONG time since a reigning Welterweight champion challenged a reinging Middleweight Champion...

Nunn vs Starling, right?
If my memory serves me correctly then yes I believe that was the last one.

Can't think of any others.
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