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Old 07-07-2011, 08:02 AM
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Ricardo Moreno and Sugar Ramos deserves a mention here as well.
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Old 07-07-2011, 08:10 AM
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Ricardo Moreno and Sugar Ramos deserves a mention here as well.
Sugar Ramos def does. I know nothing about the other guy. Ramos killed Davey Moore, that alone is a proof he was a lethal puncher. Even at lw he could crack.
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Old 07-07-2011, 08:18 AM
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Sugar Ramos def does. I know nothing about the other guy. Ramos killed Davey Moore, that alone is a proof he was a lethal puncher. Even at lw he could crack.
He killed Jose Blanco as well.
On Moore, the damage done to his brain was caused by whiplash after his head bounced off the bottom rope when Ramos KO him.

Moreno wasn't exactly a world class boxer and whenever he did step up to world level he got beat which takes away from him, obviously, but he was a huge puncher, his record is 60 wins 59 by KO, the one that wasn't by KO was a DQ win.

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Old 07-08-2011, 08:50 AM
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i'm still wondering why the **** olivares (pronounced "Olives" according to my autocorrect ^ ^ ) is in the top ten of your list


he's not a top ten punching FW
he's a top 5 punching BW, though.


he was a solid puncher at 26, but did his power really carry to the top ten of the FW division is what you have to ask yourself
the answer is clearly no



and on to erik morales...
wasn't even a terrific puncher.
he was a good hard puncher and a worker who had to break guys down and use his boxing skills and stamina
but he was NOT a power puncher in this context and doesn't belong ANYWHERE CLOSE to the top ten.

and this is coming from a guy who pitches a tent de pantalon every time erik morales is throwin down



for context,
juanma lopez was a much harder puncher at 122, and 126 than morales
he couldn't// cant do much with it, because his idea of sound defensive performance is taking punches on the chin but staying upright and banging his gloves together, and he also doesn't have morales' chin
but he's a harder puncher than morales could ever hope to be.
and not a top ten FW puncher in simple power punching terms.


if you aren't going to see it you aren't going to see it
like magic eye
but you're wrong if you think morales or olives are top ten FW punchers
or olivares
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Old 07-08-2011, 11:06 AM
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Wilfredo Gomez shouldn't rank anywhere on anyone's best punchers at 126. At 122, he's one of the best punchers ever...but at Feather, he KO'd no one of note, and in fact wasn't even that successful when you think about it.
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Old 07-08-2011, 03:18 PM
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i'm still wondering why the **** olivares (pronounced "Olives" according to my autocorrect ^ ^ ) is in the top ten of your list


he's not a top ten punching FW
he's a top 5 punching BW, though.


he was a solid puncher at 26, but did his power really carry to the top ten of the FW division is what you have to ask yourself
the answer is clearly no



and on to erik morales...
wasn't even a terrific puncher.
he was a good hard puncher and a worker who had to break guys down and use his boxing skills and stamina
but he was NOT a power puncher in this context and doesn't belong ANYWHERE CLOSE to the top ten.

and this is coming from a guy who pitches a tent de pantalon every time erik morales is throwin down



for context,
juanma lopez was a much harder puncher at 122, and 126 than morales
he couldn't// cant do much with it, because his idea of sound defensive performance is taking punches on the chin but staying upright and banging his gloves together, and he also doesn't have morales' chin
but he's a harder puncher than morales could ever hope to be.
and not a top ten FW puncher in simple power punching terms.


if you aren't going to see it you aren't going to see it
like magic eye
but you're wrong if you think morales or olives are top ten FW punchers
or olivares
I told you already, coz he stopped Chacon twice and hurt Arguello. Weak punchers don't do that, y'know.
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Old 07-08-2011, 04:45 PM
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Hamed's resume (in the context of Pac's) is open to criticism. But it was hardly a Bum Of The Month parade.
Im just making the point that it was tougher to look good against the guys Pac faced. Hamed's res is aight but there are many fights he could have taken but knew better.

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He could, but with the aid of ROIDS. Keep up with the happenings man. Even the birds know Manny is juicing and has been since the Diaz fight.
Even as a die hard Mayweather fan I try to stay middle of the road on it until he's proven guilty. I'll only go as far as to say "Its possible".
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Pacquiao has gotta be on this list given how he's moved up.
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Old 07-08-2011, 05:24 PM
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You *******s are funny,Hamed used to spar with heavy weights and they used to say his shots hurt so do 1 please,Hamed would lay pac out cold.
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I told you already, coz he stopped Chacon twice and hurt Arguello. Weak punchers don't do that, y'know.
I saw the first two Olivares-Chacon fights live. Olivares did hurt the inexperienced Chacon in the first fight and made him quit in his corner. However Chacon was beaten on the scales for the second one and basically just fell apart in the ring. Olivares certainly was a good puncher at 126, but nowhere near the monster he was at 118, and nowhere near the best ever at featherweight.
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