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Old 05-29-2011, 03:20 AM
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Default [VIDEO] FILIPINO Boxing Analyst all agree, "MARQUEZ BEAT PACQUIAO"

Marquez has responded to Freddie Roach, with the following quote:

"I think that Freddie Roach has his own point of view, and that's his hobby, but the best judges out there are the people [who watched the fights]," Marquez said.

Marquez is right, and even the top analyst from the Philippines agree with him!



At 5:34 into the video...

The top boxing analyst representing Philippines media all declare that Manny Pacquiao lost to the smaller and older Marquez. Even BoxingScene writer / ******* , Ronnie Nathanielsz, felt Marquez should have got the decision. This was even a "New and Improved" Pacquiao with two hands, faster foot speed, and with the size and power advantage. In the eyes of the Filipino analyst, it was still not enough to beat the older, smaller, and slower Marquez.

Filipino boxer, Nonito Donaire, also stated Marquez won the fight.

Historians such as Bert Sugar had Marquez winning both fights against Pacquiao.
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Old 05-29-2011, 03:24 AM
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Ive watched both fights multiple times, and I cant see how you can have Manny winning either of them. Besides the knockdowns, he was totally outclassed in both fights. Marquez won more rounds overall (nobody really disagrees with that) and made Pac look the worst he has ever looked in a fight (even Morales didnt all but shut Pac out like Marquez did.) But it wont matter. History will remember the brutal beating Pac is about to give Juan at a bull**** weight that Juan has already admitted he cant handle (after the Mayweather fight.) So regardless of who really won the fights, history will remember Pac winning 2, and drawing in the other.
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Ive watched both fights multiple times, and I cant see how you can have Manny winning either of them. Besides the knockdowns, he was totally outclassed in both fights. Marquez won more rounds overall (nobody really disagrees with that) and made Pac look the worst he has ever looked in a fight (even Morales didnt all but shut Pac out like Marquez did.) But it wont matter. History will remember the brutal beating Pac is about to give Juan at a bull**** weight that Juan has already admitted he cant handle (after the Mayweather fight.) So regardless of who really won the fights, history will remember Pac winning 2, and drawing in the other.
I believe Ronnie Nathanielsz had Marquez winning the rematch, if i'm not mistaken. And if you know Ronnie, you would know that's incredible that he picked against Pacquiao.

Edit: Yes he did.

- Associated Press:114-113 Marquez
- Joe Santoliquito:115-112 Marquez
- Dan Rafael, ESPN.com: 114-113 Marquez
- Darius Ortiz, ESPN.com:114-113 Marquez
- Eric Raskin, ESPN.com:114-113 Marquez
- Brian Kenny, Friday Night Fights:115-112 Marquez
- Scott Mallon, Ring Magazine / Boxing News / The Fist / Boxing Digest:114-113 Marquez
- Yahoo Sports:115-112 Marquez
- Fight News.com:115-112 Marquez
- Steve Carp, Las Vegas Review Journal: 114-113 Marquez
- Norm Fraunheim, Arizona Republic:114-113 Marquez
- Rich Marrotta, Top Rank TV:114-113 Marquez
- Kieran Mulvaney, Reuters:114-113 Marquez
- DogHouseBoxing:114-113 Marquez
- Brett Conway, MaxBoxing.com:114-113 Marquez
- Rick Reeno, BoxingScene.com:114-113 Marquez
- Gary Randall, MaxBoxing.com:114-113 Marquez
- Bart Barry, 15Rounds.com:115-113 Marquez
- Bruce McTavish, International Judge:115-112 Marquez
- Francis Ochoa, Philippine Daily Inquirer:114-113 Marquez
- Scott Christ, BadLeftHook.com:114-113 Marquez
- William Detloff, The Ring Magazine:115-113 Marquez
- Ron Borges, TheSweetScience.com:114-113 Marquez
- Bert Sugar:Marquez
- Max Kellerman & Bob Papa:Marquez in both fights
- Nonito Donaire:114-113 Marquez
- Filipino Sports Analysts Ronnie Nathanielsz, Recah Trinidad and Ed Picson all picked Marquez.
- Graham Houston, FightWriter.com also picked Marquez
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Old 05-29-2011, 03:37 AM
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I believe Ronnie Nathanielsz had Marquez winning the rematch, if i'm not mistaken. And if you know Ronnie, you would know that's incredible that he picked against Pacquiao.

Edit: Yes he did.

- Associated Press:114-113 Marquez
- Joe Santoliquito:115-112 Marquez
- Dan Rafael, ESPN.com: 114-113 Marquez
- Darius Ortiz, ESPN.com:114-113 Marquez
- Eric Raskin, ESPN.com:114-113 Marquez
- Brian Kenny, Friday Night Fights:115-112 Marquez
- Scott Mallon, Ring Magazine / Boxing News / The Fist / Boxing Digest:114-113 Marquez
- Yahoo Sports:115-112 Marquez
- Fight News.com:115-112 Marquez
- Steve Carp, Las Vegas Review Journal: 114-113 Marquez
- Norm Fraunheim, Arizona Republic:114-113 Marquez
- Rich Marrotta, Top Rank TV:114-113 Marquez
- Kieran Mulvaney, Reuters:114-113 Marquez
- DogHouseBoxing:114-113 Marquez
- Brett Conway, MaxBoxing.com:114-113 Marquez
- Rick Reeno, BoxingScene.com:114-113 Marquez
- Gary Randall, MaxBoxing.com:114-113 Marquez
- Bart Barry, 15Rounds.com:115-113 Marquez
- Bruce McTavish, International Judge:115-112 Marquez
- Francis Ochoa, Philippine Daily Inquirer:114-113 Marquez
- Scott Christ, BadLeftHook.com:114-113 Marquez
- William Detloff, The Ring Magazine:115-113 Marquez
- Ron Borges, TheSweetScience.com:114-113 Marquez
- Bert Sugar:Marquez
- Max Kellerman & Bob Papa:Marquez in both fights
- Nonito Donaire:114-113 Marquez
- Filipino Sports Analysts Ronnie Nathanielsz, Recah Trinidad and Ed Picson all picked Marquez.
- Graham Houston, FightWriter.com also picked Marquez
Ronnie Nathanielsz is in the video I posted, you can see him in the Philippines news broadcast while they mention he picked Marquez.
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Old 05-29-2011, 03:38 AM
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114-113 is a very close score, but when that many experts had it the same, you can hardly call it a fight that "could have gone either way".
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i am no sure in the first but in the second fight marquez win for sure but manny is the super star the face of boxing the CW king, marquez need to be smart again dont trade punches with pacman be smart marquez be counter puncher
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Wow, finally the truth comes out. This is way boxing is loosing credibility. It use to be an honorable sport. To bad that the world title organizations are also playing dirty games and champions are no longer fighting other champions. Instead they cherry pick their opponents to please the cable networks. This is why we must come together and demand quality fights and fighters boycott these organizations who are killing the sport of boxing. Que viva la revolucion!!!
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Marquez has responded to Freddie Roach, with the following quote:

"I think that Freddie Roach has his own point of view, and that's his hobby, but the best judges out there are the people [who watched the fights]," Marquez said.

Marquez is right, and even the top analyst from the Philippines agree with him!



At 5:34 into the video...

The top boxing analyst representing Philippines media all declare that Manny Pacquiao lost to the smaller and older Marquez. Even BoxingScene writer / ******* , Ronnie Nathanielsz, felt Marquez should have got the decision. This was even a "New and Improved" Pacquiao with two hands, faster foot speed, and with the size and power advantage. In the eyes of the Filipino analyst, it was still not enough to beat the older, smaller, and slower Marquez.

Filipino boxer, Nonito Donaire, also stated Marquez won the fight.

Historians such as Bert Sugar had Marquez winning both fights against Pacquiao.

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I found a Detroit Analyst that says they never ever fought, guess this shows we can't rely on what analysts say.
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