Lewis vs. Foreman?

[BKM-2010]

Ali beat Foreman by outslugging him huh? Thanks for entertaining me.

Lyle showed that Foreman can be outslugged, and Lyle and Young showed that Foreman can be outboxed. Nice try bro. I guess that's all you can say.

[joseph5620]

Lyle showed that Foreman can be outslugged, and Lyle and Young showed that Foreman can be outboxed. Nice try bro. I guess that's all you can say.

Lyle only showed that slugging with Foreman gets you knocked out. Apparently that's too painful for you to accept. And who questioned whether Foreman could be outboxed? Keep embarrassing yourself. I'm enjoying it.

[BKM-2010]

What Ali did to beat Foreman is hard to label....except "outsmarted him".

Defnitely outboxed Foreman. He just played with him. Whenever he wasn't on the ropes(and it's a complete myth that Ali was on the ropes the entire fight) Ali peppered him with quick punches and just tooled him. Foreman responded with windmills and pushing.

The much bigger Lewis is not going to get bullied around and those windmills won't be enough, he'd have to use his powerful jab more. Lewis has handled a lot of aggressive brawlers and swarmers just fine. Foreman is a diffirent animal one might say, but I don't see him winning against the versatile Lennox.

[BKM-2010]

Lyle only showed that slugging with Foreman gets you knocked out. Apparently that's too painful for you to accept. And who questioned whether Foreman could be outboxed? Keep embarrassing yourself. I'm enjoying it.

Really? That's all he showed? I suppose the number of times he hurt Foreman badly and knocked him down twice with one of those having Foreman saved by the bell don't count right? Why don't you just stick to Foreman being past his prime in that fight lol.

[joseph5620]

Really? That's all he showed? I suppose the number of times he hurt Foreman badly and knocked him down twice with one of those having Foreman saved by the bell don't count right? Why don't you just stick to Foreman being past his prime in that fight lol.

What I'm sticking to is that Foreman won the fight by KO. That's all I need. All you can stick to is your delusions over who actually won the fight.

[The Surgeon]

Lewis chin tends to get underrated, aside from being caught cold by McCall and Rahman, he took some serious bombs from Briggs who say what you want about him was a big time hitter. Then there's his fight with Vitali who is also a huge puncher.

If Lennox shows up focused, I think he survives the the early rush and gores Foreman in the later rounds with his own power shots.

Alot of people do under rate Lewis' chin but i think most people in this section have a good grasp on the realities of it - not solid but far from the glass people would have u believe. The fact is tho he DID get level'd Twice with a single shot from average fighters. Those were good punchers tho and both threw Bombs to get those KO wins. Just a quick point tho i dont feel like Vitali is a huge ****er, he just pushes his shots out there and through his sheer size and the accumulative damage he gets the stoppages.

Lewis could outbox George thats feasible. But i think whoever wins its gonna be by a KO most likely early doors. Foreman had the Raw Brute Force Power to KO Lennox HOWEVER u rate his chin and i feel Foreman would do just that, he was a Monster. Lewis would have the power to hurt him too tho and has more range, his shots are thrown more correctly to so he's in with a chance. Foreman was a Monster like i said but not invincible, he was open to big shots and did get stopped by average hitter Ali (fatigue really tho) and Dropped and rocked silly by Lyle. I cant back a guy with a Lewis level chin against Foreman tho, he dont have the speed and movement to clown him either in my honest opinion

[BKM-2010]

What I'm sticking to is that Foreman won the fight by KO. That's all I need. All you can stick to is your delusions over who actually won the fight.

And I'm sticking to Lyle proving that Foreman is not unbeatable in a slugfest because he was almost knocked out and was knocked down twice, saved by the bell once, hurt many times etc. Delusions? hypocrisy at its finest. I am not the one who openly CHOOSES to only look at parts of a fight that I like, and blatantly dismiss any other moments that make him look worse. Good luck to you, Joe.

[joseph5620]

And I'm sticking to Lyle proving that Foreman is not unbeatable in a slugfest because he was almost knocked out and was knocked down twice, saved by the bell once, hurt many times etc. Delusions? hypocrisy at its finest. I am not the one who openly CHOOSES to only look at parts of a fight that I like, and blatantly dismiss any other moments that make him look worse. Good luck to you, Joe.

No, I'm looking at the conclusion of the fight. When one boxer goes down for a 10 count that's as conclusive as it gets. You are the one picking and choosing certain parts of the fight. Not me. In the end Foreman won by KO. And whether you like it or not that's the big picture and what goes in the record books. Foreman W KO 5 Lyle or Lyle L KO'd in 5 is the only thing you'll see on the record. Deal with it.

[BigStereotype]

No, I'm looking at the conclusion of the fight. When one boxer goes down for a 10 count that's as conclusive as it gets. You are the one picking and choosing certain parts of the fight. Not me. In the end Foreman won by KO. And whether you like it or not that's the big picture and what goes in the record books. Foreman W KO 5 Lyle or Lyle L KO'd in 5 is the only thing you'll see on the record. Deal with it.

That might fly in other sports, but in boxing, performance has a huge impact on the win. Come on, man, you know that Foreman was a pubey hair away from being knocked out there. He was on the upperhand of that fight, no doubt, but I don't know how you could look at that and think he's invincible.

[BKM-2010]

[B][I]No, I'm looking at the conclusion of the fight.

While blatantly dismissing what actually happened on both ends, not just the side that you support.

When one boxer goes down for a 10 count that's as conclusive as it gets. You are the one picking and choosing certain parts of the fight. Not me. In the end Foreman won by KO. And whether you like it or not that's the big picture and what goes in the record books. Foreman W KO 5 Lyle or Lyle L KO'd in 5 is the only thing you'll see on the record.

We all know Foreman is one of the most brutal fighters in history, and would most likely come out on top in a slugfest against many fighters, but not everybody because we saw him on the brink of defeat against Lyle in a brawl.

Lyle, with all due respect to him, is a very limited but naturally gifted fighter. And there have been fighters who not only possesed Lyle's raw talents, but a lot of technique coupled with that slugging ability. So again, if Foreman is almost knocked out cold, down twice, saved by the bell, hurt many times against a guy like Lyle, he is not unbeatable in a slugfest.

You may have missed my point. I'm not bigging up Ron Lyle, I'm not even a fan of his. What I'm getting at is Foreman's weaknesses that are well documented but ignored by his fans.

Deal with it.

I've dealt with everything. What YOU need to deal with is that Foreman is not invincible in a punch-out.