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  • Do you agree with this P4P List?

    P4P List:

    1. Floyd Mayweather
    2. Manny Pacquiao
    3. Joe Calzaghe
    4. Bernard Hopkins
    5. Juan Manuel Marquez
    6. Israel Vazquez
    7. Winky Wright
    8. Rafael Marquez
    9. Ricky Hatton
    10. Miguel Cotto

    Others that can fill up the list after #10 /Honourable Mentions:

    Joan Guzman
    Ivan Calderon
    Juan Diaz
    Kelly Pavlik
    Mikkel Kessler
    Jermain Taylor

  • #2
    Eeryone has their own..

    Instead of Wright, who is 1-1-1 in his last 3, mine has Pavlik who KOs everyone on his path.. and had some great showings..

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    • #3
      Almost exactly as mine except I have Ivan Calderon on the list, he is the definition of p4p if you ask me he is always undersized and beats guys way bigger than him.

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      • #4
        I think it's pretty solid except for one thing.

        I unlike most others including you............don't think Israel Vasquez is a top ten P4P fighter based on his two wins over Larios and Rafa.

        Rafa is still the better fighter of the two and I don't think him moving up in weight and losing that fight was an indicator of who the better fighter between the two is. The third fight I guess could settle that dispute.

        It's like a seesaw battle with them anyways, I think that also has more to do with Vasquez having the kind of tough style that gives Marquez problems.

        Rafa knocked out two HOF fighters in Johnson and Austin.



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        • #5
          1, Mayweather
          2, Pacman
          3, Calzaghe
          4, Hopkins
          5, Wright
          6, JMM
          7, Hatton
          8, Mosley
          9, Cotto
          10, Kessler

          that's how mine looks... next weekend it will all change

          you have a pretty good list too i agree with most of it.

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          • #6
            P4P List:

            1. Floyd Mayweather
            2. Manny Pacquiao
            3. Joe Calzaghe
            4. Juan Manuel Marquez
            5. Bernard Hopkins
            6. Winky Wright
            7. Rafael Marquez
            8. Ricky Hatton
            9. Kelly Pavlik
            10. Miguel Cotto
            Last edited by Tuggers1986; 11-04-2007, 12:34 PM.

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            • #7
              It's for the most part good... Move a few spots up or down on a few and we're pretty similar.

              1. Mayweather
              2. Calzaghe
              3. Pacquiao
              4. Juan Manuel Marquez
              5. Isreal Vasquez
              6. Bernard Hopkins
              7. Rafeal Marquez
              8. Winky Wright
              9. Ricky Hatton
              10. Ivan Calderon

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              • #8
                pretty much okay but I going with Calzaghe 2nd and Pac 3rd after todays performance.

                Ivan Calderon is on my top 10

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by RunW/Knives View Post
                  I think it's pretty solid except for one thing.

                  I unlike most others including you............don't think Israel Vasquez is a top ten P4P fighter based on his two wins over Larios and Rafa.

                  Rafa is still the better fighter of the two and I don't think him moving up in weight and losing that fight was an indicator of who the better fighter between the two is. The third fight I guess could settle that dispute.

                  It's like a seesaw battle with them anyways, I think that also has more to do with Vasquez having the kind of tough style that gives Marquez problems.

                  Rafa knocked out two HOF fighters in Johnson and Austin.
                  I think beating Rafa alone makes him a top 10 P4P Fighter because Rafael is a great fighter in my opinion and to beat him is a accomplishment, Although vazques was the bigger man...I think Marquez will beat him in the third fight and he is the better fighter, but this is not what I think of Israel, Its what I think of Marquez, I rated him so highly that even if Israel beat him I had to rate him in the P4P list. Rafael Marquez is a HOF Fighter though and the trilogy with Israel will confirm that when he should come out on top.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Parody View Post
                    P4P List:

                    1. Floyd Mayweather
                    2. Manny Pacquiao
                    3. Joe Calzaghe
                    4. Bernard Hopkins
                    5. Juan Manuel Marquez
                    6. Israel Vazquez
                    7. Winky Wright
                    8. Rafael Marquez
                    9. Ricky Hatton
                    10. Miguel Cotto

                    Others that can fill up the list after #10 /Honourable Mentions:

                    Joan Guzman
                    Ivan Calderon
                    Juan Diaz
                    Kelly Pavlik
                    Mikkel Kessler
                    Jermain Taylor
                    Not a good list, IMO. Bernard Hopkins and Winky Wright should not be in there. (Both faded even tho still formidable) We also disagree as to order, but that's not as important as identifying the top ten.

                    IMO p4p is about the sum of a boxer's skills when he is at his best. I don't like having over the hill fighters in the p4p list. Hopkins and Wright are beyond prime now. Wright is still close to p4p because his skills have always been almost totally defensive and have not dropped off too much. However, Hopkins is not even close to what he used to be from an offensive standpoint. He doesn't even belong in the top 15 p4p, IMO.

                    This was my list from 5 days ago. I'm sticking with it:

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                    1. Pacquiao
                    2. Calzaghe
                    3. Hatton
                    4. Mayweather
                    5. Israel Vasquez
                    6. Pavlik
                    7. J. M. Marquez
                    8. Cotto
                    9. Mosely
                    10. Kessler

                    Edit: I'm willing to move Calderon in for Kessler after last night, but Kessler is still a big contender for p4p.
                    Last edited by Wiley Hyena; 11-04-2007, 01:01 PM.

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