Who ranks higher Joe Calzaghe or Wladamir on the atg list?

[Larry the boss]

who do you think is the more accomplished fighter?

[MJ223]

Gotta go with Wlad.....

[Larry the boss]

Gotta go with Wlad.....

why??Joe unifed his entire division with no help from anyone else.and moved up and got the ring title......id love to hear your argument.i gotta go with Joe

46-0..lineal smw champ.moved up and won ring title at 175

[Danny Gunz]

The difference between the two is that Wlad has been open to facing all of the challenges in his career (although there wasn't many) while Joe has been content with mediocrity... so I'd say Wlad.

Oh yeah and inb4 daggum

[Russian Crushin]

why??Joe unifed his entire division with no help from anyone else.and moved up and got the ring title......id love to hear your argument.i gotta go with Joe

46-0..lineal smw champ.moved up and won ring title at 175

Cazaghe's career and image is a person who avoided all the big fights

Vlad fights whoever and is mostly around "calzaghes" aka duckers

Nobody cares that he got those things they mean almost nothing.

[MJ223]

why??Joe unifed his entire division with no help from anyone else.and moved up and got the ring title......id love to hear your argument.i gotta go with Joe

46-0..lineal smw champ.moved up and won ring title at 175

Its short and sweet..... Just 2 words.... Sven Ottke

[Dubblechin]

Have to go with Wladimir Klitschko.

Not only for his dominance at heavyweight and because of the number of champions he's beaten, but he won the Olympic Gold Medal as well. Wladimir has been a world champ at the pro and amateur levels. Calzaghe wasn't.

[daggum]

The difference between the two is that Wlad has been open to facing all of the challenges in his career (although there wasn't many) while Joe has been content with mediocrity... so I'd say Wlad.

Oh yeah and inb4 daggum

darn you! he's been open to facing all challengers....except the number 1 challenger! small little detail. calzaghe and ottke ran the same scam that vitali and wlad are running now.

neither guy is an all time great but calzaghe at least beat the best guy in 2 divisions although hopkins was dubious. wlad's only beaten the best guy once and he's been ko'd 3 times.

[Danny Gunz]

darn you! he's been open to facing all challengers....except the number 1 challenger! small little detail. calzaghe and ottke ran the same scam that vitali and wlad are running now.

neither guy is an all time great but calzaghe at least beat the best guy in 2 divisions although hopkins was dubious. wlad's only beaten the best guy once and he's been ko'd 3 times.

True, but we cant fault either for not wanting to fight their own brother... although that'd be a ppv I'd be willing to buy.

Pac-Floyd and Wlad-Vitali in 2012

[daggum]

Have to go with Wladimir Klitschko.

Not only for his dominance at heavyweight and because of the number of champions he's beaten, but he won the Olympic Gold Medal as well. Wladimir has been a world champ at the pro and amateur levels. Calzaghe wasn't.

number of champs hes' beaten? he's only beaten 3 guys who were champ when they fought. same as calzaghe did. he's beaten 9 guys total who were current or former champs but then again calzaghe beat 9 current/former champs as well. that means nothing because a lot of those guys were shot like rahman, mercer, brewer, roy jones etc... calzaghe also collected all 4 belts while wlad only has 3. calzaghe was linear champ in 2 divisions although 1 was dubious but still give him credit for taking a risk. wlad's not even the legit linear champ. fighting ruslan chagaev who was number 3 instead of fighting vitali who was 2. come on. fake.