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  • #21
    Originally posted by BoxingFollower View Post
    But if we are gonna give credit for NON OFFICIAL Victories, such as Marquez beating Pacquiao and Pacquiao beating Bradley.

    Then I'm gonna have to give

    4. Marquez
    5. Pacquiao
    You sound like a ****** yourself. You're rating official win but then you don't have Bradley on your top 3 P4P list. Then you try to do the unofficial win and turn thing aound lol.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by ModernTalking View Post
      You sound like a ****** yourself. You're rating official win but then you don't have Bradley on your top 3 P4P list. Then you try to do the unofficial win and turn thing aound lol.
      Not sure bro, I'm not a ESPN employee, just trynna get other boxing fans opinion.

      In my opinion as I said...

      The rankings should be

      1. Sergio Martinez
      2. Andre Ward
      3. Floyd Mayweather
      4. Manny Pacquiao
      5. Juan Marquez

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      • #23
        Originally posted by BoxingFollower View Post
        Seems like the boxing world has turned up side down, not so long ago was Pacquaio seen across ALL media ventures as Number 1 P4P in the sport.

        Now on ESPN and many other outlets, Pacquiao is not ranked 1 nor 2. Do you agree than Floyd Mayweather, Andre Ward, Sergio Martinez all deserved to be ranked higher than the Filipino King?

        http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id...d-pound-boxers
        I agree Pac should not be number1 ward should be. Not sure where everyone else fits in but Mayweather should not be number 1 because of his inactivity and quality of last opponent. Ward definitely deserves the number 1 spot in my opinion. Mayweather would have to beat pac or vice versa to compete with ward for the #1 spot

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Davis40 View Post
          I agree Pac should not be number1 ward should be. Not sure where everyone else fits in but Mayweather should not be number 1 because of his inactivity and quality of last opponent. Ward definitely deserves the number 1 spot in my opinion. Mayweather would have to beat pac or vice versa to compete with ward for the #1 spot
          Great Analysis, straight answer.

          So it seems like most people believe that NEITHER Floyd Or Manny should be number 1.

          Majority rules.

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          • #25
            1. Mayweather
            2. Ward
            3. Martinez
            4. Pacquiao

            A lose is a lose, and no matter if you feel he had won against Bradley. His record says differently!

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Freedom. View Post
              Andre Ward should NOT be ranked ahead of Manny Pacquiao.

              Ward is a pampered boxer who refused to fight outside the US in the Super Six, even though everybody else had to.

              Ward relies on his home referees to permit him to use illegal tactics such as deliberate headbutts, hitting off the break and hitting while holding.

              Pacquiao has never been afraid to move up the weight divisions and win titles, but Ward refused even to fight Dawson at a catchweight of 170.
              stupid ward has fought the best competition and dawson challenged him so there is no reason he should have been forced to move up. You are just being a crybaby because he beat all the uk fighters. You are so biased you can't even admit how padded calzaghes record is and get offended when people bring it up. You can't just dismiss the fact that the guy fought cans almost exclusively for 40 plus fights and was way over protected by frank warren who does that to all his fighters especially slappy joe

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              • #27
                Originally posted by Freedom. View Post
                1. Martinez
                2. Pacquiao/JM Marquez
                3. W. Klitschko

                - Mayweather is good but he hasn't fought often enough in recent years to be P4P
                - Ward always fights at home with referees who let him use illegal tactics.
                - Both Ward and Donaire work with convicted felon Victor Conte, so they should be suspected of PED use.
                If you're going to criticize Ward and Donaire shouldn't you do the same to Marquez??? You have heard about his strength coach right???

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by Freedom. View Post
                  1. Martinez
                  2. Pacquiao/JM Marquez
                  3. W. Klitschko

                  - Mayweather is good but he hasn't fought often enough in recent years to be P4P
                  - Ward always fights at home with referees who let him use illegal tactics.
                  - Both Ward and Donaire work with convicted felon Victor Conte, so they should be suspected of PED use.
                  Even though Donaire does year round blood testing? That doesn't matter?

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by BoxingFollower View Post
                    Great Analysis, straight answer.

                    So it seems like most people believe that NEITHER Floyd Or Manny should be number 1.

                    Majority rules.
                    only a nut hugger could put mayweather over ward right now. The only thing the guy has done in two years is beat cotto and it wasn't by a landslide either. Compare that to what Ward has done and its not even close. You have to have a man crush on mayweeather to try to justify him being number 1 because the facts are not there.

                    hes done nothing to deserve it. In the time roughly that mayweather struggled with cotto Ward dominated Abraham Froch and KO'd Dawson. It's not even close. Mayweather bum sniffers who try to put him ahead of ward are grabbing at straws and need a reality check. Time to take the guys pubes out of your eyes and stop living in a fantasy land where Floyd is the knight in shining armor putting you on his lap to ride off into boxings history. That goes for Pac fans to

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                    • #30
                      These lists are objective... who cares.... he was #1 when everybody was complaining about it

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