I have little doubt that Ward would win. He hasn't lost a fight since he was 10 years old or something. He's too versatile for Toney. Toney never was unbeatable, just extremely stylish.
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Prime James Toney vs Andre Ward @168
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I miss these types of threads in NSB. Great posts.
Somehow, I see Toney catching Ward with something big on the inside, one of those looping, almost nonsensical, but educated uppercuts, and using the momentum achieved from said punch carrying him to a close S.D. win.
People would ***** and moan about it be "boring", but the fight would be slicker then trying to ice skate uphill in Alaska with oil drenched hockey skates.
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Originally posted by Cardinal Buck View PostI have little doubt that Ward would win. He hasn't lost a fight since he was 10 years old or something. He's too versatile for Toney. Toney never was unbeatable, just extremely stylish.
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Originally posted by AyoMaDu View PostToney was just extremely stylish? Never heard that before and if by that you are trying to imply that he wasn't that skilled only that he was extremely stylish then I have no idea what to say to you. That left me dumbfounded
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Originally posted by Tmann400 View PostI'm a big Toney fan. But, I disagree with what you just said. How is Ward a bad outside fighter. He's shown he can box inside, outside and at medium range. I think Ward would give Toney different looks throughout the fight, keeping Toney guessing. I'd say they're about equal in speed, if anything Ward being faster. They're also two COMPLETELY different fighters on the inside.
I think Ward's skill level, timing, the angles he comes from, chameleon-like versatility, and talent would at the very least make this fight very close, if not, Ward pulls out a 115-113 116-112 kind of win. That's coming from a LONGTIME Toney fan. Toney struggled badly with "boxers" like Ward. Guys who played the angles, who had elite boxing skills, who could give you different looks. Toney did best with guys he could allow to come to him, where he could relax and time guys while laying back on the ropes. When guys flipped the script on Toney, and used lateral movement and played the angles, he had big problems.
All I can say is, this would be a magnificent display of elite, high speed chess-like boxing.
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