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  • #11
    So it seems. He's the best of our era that is for sure.

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    • #12
      ....somebody posted this at esb and has good info about pac's legacy!

      Elite Club of Multiple Division World Champions w/ at least 4:
      8 - Manny Pacquiao (112, 122, 126, 130, 135, 140, 147, 154)
      6 - Oscar DeLa Hoya (130, 135, 140, 147, 154, 160)
      5 - Thomas Hearns (147, 154, 160, 168, 175)
      5 - Sugar Ray Leonard (147, 154, 160, 168, 175)
      5 - Floyd Mayweather Jr. (130, 135, 140, 147, 154)
      4 - Roberto Duran (135, 147, 154, 160)
      4 - Pernell Whitaker (135, 140, 147, 154)
      4 - Leo Gomez (105, 108, 112, 115)
      4 - Roy Jones Jr. (160, 168, 175, 200+)

      Elite Club of Multiple Awardee of Ring Figther of the Year w/ at least 3:
      5 - Muhhamad Ali - 1963, 1972, 1974, 1975, 1978
      4 - Joe Louis - 1936, 1938, 1939, 1941
      3 - Joe Frazier - 1967, 1970, 1971
      3 - Evander Holyfield - 1987, 1996, 1997
      3 - Manny Pacquiao - 2006, 2008, 2009*

      Elite Club of Multiple Awardee of BWAA Figther of the Year w/ at least 3:
      3 - Muhhamad Ali - 1965, 1974, 1975
      3 - Joe Frazier - 1969, 1971, 1975
      3 - Sugar Ray Leonard - 1976, 1979, 1981
      3 - Evander Holyfield - 1990, 1996, 1997
      3 - Manny Pacquiao - 2006, 2008, 2009*



      Comparing Manny Pacquiao among the Ring top-10 ATG Fighters:

      Career W-L-D Record:
      Joe Louis =========== 66-3-0 ======= 0.957
      Willie Pep =========== 229-11-1 ===== 0.950
      Muhhamad Ali ======== 56-5-0 ======= 0.918
      Manny Pacquiao ====== 51-3-2 ======= 0.911 (4th)
      Sugar Ray Leonard ==== 36-3-1 ======= 0.900
      Pernell Whitaker ====== 40-4-1 ======= 0.889
      Sugar Ray Robinson === 175-19-6 ===== 0.875
      Harry Greb ========== 260-20-18 ==== 0.872
      Roberto Duran ======= 103-16-0 ===== 0.866
      Benny Leonard ======= 184-19-11 ==== 0.860
      Henry Armstrong ===== 149-21-10 ==== 0.828

      KO Percentage:
      Joe Louis ============= 75.36%
      Manny Pacquiao ======== 67.86% (2nd)
      Sugar Ray Leonard ====== 62.50%
      Muhhamad Ali ========== 60.66%
      Roberto Duran ========= 58.85%
      Henry Armstrong ======= 56.11%
      Sugar Ray Robinson ===== 54.00%
      Pernell Whitaker ======== 36.96%
      Willie Pep ============= 26.97%
      Benny Leonard ========= N/A
      Harry Greb ============ N/A

      Peak Record:
      Harry Greb ============ 258-18-18
      Benny Leonard ========= 184-18-11
      Willie Pep ============= 134-1-1
      Sugar Ray Robinson ===== 128-1-2
      Henry Armstrong ======= 108-12-8
      Roberto Duran ========= 72-1-0
      Joe Louis ============= 58-1-0
      Muhhamad Ali ========== 55-2-0
      Manny Pacquiao ======== 51-3-2 (9th)
      Pernell Whitaker ======== 40-1-1
      Sugar Ray Leonard ====== 35-1-1

      Number of HOF'er Defeated:
      Harry Greb ------------------ 13
      Norfolk, Tunney, Blackburn, Dillon, Flowers, Walker, Loughran, Miske,
      Levinskey, M. Gibbons, Rosenbloom, Slattery, T. Gibbons
      Sugar Ray Robinson -------- 10
      Armstrong, LaMotta, Fullmer, Gavilan, Basilio, Graziano,
      Zivic, Turpin, Angott, Olson
      Henry Armstrong ----------- 10
      Wolgast, Ross, Angott, Ambers, Jenkins, Zivic,
      Montanez, Bass, Wright, Arizmendi
      Joe Louis -------------------- 8
      Schmeling, Sharkey, Conn, Walcott, Baer, Braddock,
      Lewis, Bivins
      Muhhamad Ali --------------- 7
      Foster, Moore, Frazier, Foreman, Liston, Patterson, Norton
      Benny Leonard -------------- 7
      Tendler, Kansas, Dundee, Ritchie, Britton,
      Kilbane, Welsh
      Manny Pacquiao ------------- 6 (7th)
      Barrera, Morales, Marquez, DeLa Hoya, Cotto, Hatton
      *Assuming all makes it in IBHOF
      Sugar Ray Leonard --------- 4
      Duran, Benitez, Hagler, Hearns
      Roberto Duran -------------- 4
      Leonard, Cuevas, Palomino, Buchanan
      *De Jesus & Marcel have strong chances though
      Willie Pep ------------------- 3
      Saddler, Ortiz, Wright
      Pernell Whitaker ------------ 2
      Nelson, Ramirez

      Average of Opponent's Record:
      Ranking by Percentage:
      Muhhamad Ali ========== 33-5-1 ======= 0.850
      Pernell Whitaker ======== 28-4-1 ======= 0.850
      Sugar Ray Leonard ====== 32-5-1 ======= 0.840
      Manny Pacquiao ======== 24-4-1 ======= 0.830(4th)
      Roberto Duran ========= 21-5-1 ======== 0.780
      Joe Louis ============= 40-10-3 ======= 0.755
      Sugar Ray Robinson ===== 39-14-4 ======= 0.684
      Henry Armstrong ======= 40-14-6 ====== 0.667
      Willie Pep ============= N/A
      Harry Greb ============ N/A
      Benny Leonard ========= N/A

      Average of Opponent's Record:
      Ranking by No. of Wins minus No. of Losses:
      Joe Louis ============= 40-10-3
      Muhhamad Ali ========== 33-5-1
      Sugar Ray Leonard ====== 32-5-1
      Henry Armstrong ======= 40-14-6
      Sugar Ray Robinson ===== 39-14-4
      Pernell Whitaker ======== 28-4-1
      Manny Pacquiao ======== 24-4-1(7th)
      Roberto Duran ========= 21-5-1
      Willie Pep ============= N/A
      Harry Greb ============ N/A
      Benny Leonard ========= N/A

      Pacquiao's Other Statistics:
      World Title Fights Record: 13-1-2
      Number of Defeated World Champions: 12
      Longest Win streak w/o a draw: 15
      First Held a World Title at age: 19
      Last Held a World Title at age: 31 (present)
      Never fought a 0-0-0 fighter

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      • #13
        He is a mentally-tough fighter.

        His early losses only served to improve him when others would have fallen permanently.

        Yet, despite his success, he has remained unassuming.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1502 View Post
          The greatest fighter I have ever seen and I have been watching boxing since the early 80's. There has never been a greater fighter in my lifetime and I think he even matches up against the all time guys I wasn't old enough to see.

          The way he absolutely destroyed Margarito was amazing. He was so much faster but his power was impressive. He moves in and out so fast and his shots carry so much weight. Even Cotto, who hit Marg flush time and time again, didn't have the power Pac had.

          I'm Mexican and proud of my Mexican warriors but Pac is the best fighter I have ever witnessed in my lifetime.

          Props to Marg for being a tough SOB, fighting with a broken orbital bone and not quitting or going down when most mortal men would have. Marg is an animal.

          Filipino's, you haven't had many great boxers but you might have one of the greatest of all time and when it's all said and done, maybe even the greatest fighter to ever lace them up.

          Congrats........
          green k for you amigo

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          • #15
            Originally posted by crookshanks View Post
            margo is tailor made for pac. no defense and slow.
            This is why he was picked man.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1502 View Post
              The greatest fighter I have ever seen and I have been watching boxing since the early 80's. There has never been a greater fighter in my lifetime and I think he even matches up against the all time guys I wasn't old enough to see.

              The way he absolutely destroyed Margarito was amazing. He was so much faster but his power was impressive. He moves in and out so fast and his shots carry so much weight. Even Cotto, who hit Marg flush time and time again, didn't have the power Pac had.

              I'm Mexican and proud of my Mexican warriors but Pac is the best fighter I have ever witnessed in my lifetime.

              Props to Marg for being a tough SOB, fighting with a broken orbital bone and not quitting or going down when most mortal men would have. Marg is an animal.

              Filipino's, you haven't had many great boxers but you might have one of the greatest of all time and when it's all said and done, maybe even the greatest fighter to ever lace them up.

              Congrats........

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              • #17
                Whitaker is still the greatest of my lifetime.

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                • #18
                  Not to rain on your parade, but it's Margarito dude...The same guy with 6 losses. He never had skill.. Never was that great. He was just big, and his usually great chin, never stop style. Slow hands, not accurate.

                  All Marg has is a chin.... Thats it.

                  So if you are going to say Pac is the best you have ever seen, please don't base it off of this fight. It makes you look kinda dumb.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by puga View Post
                    ....somebody posted this at esb and has good info about pac's legacy!

                    Elite Club of Multiple Division World Champions w/ at least 4:
                    8 - Manny Pacquiao (112, 122, 126, 130, 135, 140, 147, 154)
                    6 - Oscar DeLa Hoya (130, 135, 140, 147, 154, 160)
                    5 - Thomas Hearns (147, 154, 160, 168, 175)
                    5 - Sugar Ray Leonard (147, 154, 160, 168, 175)
                    5 - Floyd Mayweather Jr. (130, 135, 140, 147, 154)
                    4 - Roberto Duran (135, 147, 154, 160)
                    4 - Pernell Whitaker (135, 140, 147, 154)
                    4 - Leo Gomez (105, 108, 112, 115)
                    4 - Roy Jones Jr. (160, 168, 175, 200+)

                    Elite Club of Multiple Awardee of Ring Figther of the Year w/ at least 3:
                    5 - Muhhamad Ali - 1963, 1972, 1974, 1975, 1978
                    4 - Joe Louis - 1936, 1938, 1939, 1941
                    3 - Joe Frazier - 1967, 1970, 1971
                    3 - Evander Holyfield - 1987, 1996, 1997
                    3 - Manny Pacquiao - 2006, 2008, 2009*

                    Elite Club of Multiple Awardee of BWAA Figther of the Year w/ at least 3:
                    3 - Muhhamad Ali - 1965, 1974, 1975
                    3 - Joe Frazier - 1969, 1971, 1975
                    3 - Sugar Ray Leonard - 1976, 1979, 1981
                    3 - Evander Holyfield - 1990, 1996, 1997
                    3 - Manny Pacquiao - 2006, 2008, 2009*



                    Comparing Manny Pacquiao among the Ring top-10 ATG Fighters:

                    Career W-L-D Record:
                    Joe Louis =========== 66-3-0 ======= 0.957
                    Willie Pep =========== 229-11-1 ===== 0.950
                    Muhhamad Ali ======== 56-5-0 ======= 0.918
                    Manny Pacquiao ====== 51-3-2 ======= 0.911 (4th)
                    Sugar Ray Leonard ==== 36-3-1 ======= 0.900
                    Pernell Whitaker ====== 40-4-1 ======= 0.889
                    Sugar Ray Robinson === 175-19-6 ===== 0.875
                    Harry Greb ========== 260-20-18 ==== 0.872
                    Roberto Duran ======= 103-16-0 ===== 0.866
                    Benny Leonard ======= 184-19-11 ==== 0.860
                    Henry Armstrong ===== 149-21-10 ==== 0.828

                    KO Percentage:
                    Joe Louis ============= 75.36%
                    Manny Pacquiao ======== 67.86% (2nd)
                    Sugar Ray Leonard ====== 62.50%
                    Muhhamad Ali ========== 60.66%
                    Roberto Duran ========= 58.85%
                    Henry Armstrong ======= 56.11%
                    Sugar Ray Robinson ===== 54.00%
                    Pernell Whitaker ======== 36.96%
                    Willie Pep ============= 26.97%
                    Benny Leonard ========= N/A
                    Harry Greb ============ N/A

                    Peak Record:
                    Harry Greb ============ 258-18-18
                    Benny Leonard ========= 184-18-11
                    Willie Pep ============= 134-1-1
                    Sugar Ray Robinson ===== 128-1-2
                    Henry Armstrong ======= 108-12-8
                    Roberto Duran ========= 72-1-0
                    Joe Louis ============= 58-1-0
                    Muhhamad Ali ========== 55-2-0
                    Manny Pacquiao ======== 51-3-2 (9th)
                    Pernell Whitaker ======== 40-1-1
                    Sugar Ray Leonard ====== 35-1-1

                    Number of HOF'er Defeated:
                    Harry Greb ------------------ 13
                    Norfolk, Tunney, Blackburn, Dillon, Flowers, Walker, Loughran, Miske,
                    Levinskey, M. Gibbons, Rosenbloom, Slattery, T. Gibbons
                    Sugar Ray Robinson -------- 10
                    Armstrong, LaMotta, Fullmer, Gavilan, Basilio, Graziano,
                    Zivic, Turpin, Angott, Olson
                    Henry Armstrong ----------- 10
                    Wolgast, Ross, Angott, Ambers, Jenkins, Zivic,
                    Montanez, Bass, Wright, Arizmendi
                    Joe Louis -------------------- 8
                    Schmeling, Sharkey, Conn, Walcott, Baer, Braddock,
                    Lewis, Bivins
                    Muhhamad Ali --------------- 7
                    Foster, Moore, Frazier, Foreman, Liston, Patterson, Norton
                    Benny Leonard -------------- 7
                    Tendler, Kansas, Dundee, Ritchie, Britton,
                    Kilbane, Welsh
                    Manny Pacquiao ------------- 6 (7th)
                    Barrera, Morales, Marquez, DeLa Hoya, Cotto, Hatton
                    *Assuming all makes it in IBHOF
                    Sugar Ray Leonard --------- 4
                    Duran, Benitez, Hagler, Hearns
                    Roberto Duran -------------- 4
                    Leonard, Cuevas, Palomino, Buchanan
                    *De Jesus & Marcel have strong chances though
                    Willie Pep ------------------- 3
                    Saddler, Ortiz, Wright
                    Pernell Whitaker ------------ 2
                    Nelson, Ramirez

                    Average of Opponent's Record:
                    Ranking by Percentage:
                    Muhhamad Ali ========== 33-5-1 ======= 0.850
                    Pernell Whitaker ======== 28-4-1 ======= 0.850
                    Sugar Ray Leonard ====== 32-5-1 ======= 0.840
                    Manny Pacquiao ======== 24-4-1 ======= 0.830(4th)
                    Roberto Duran ========= 21-5-1 ======== 0.780
                    Joe Louis ============= 40-10-3 ======= 0.755
                    Sugar Ray Robinson ===== 39-14-4 ======= 0.684
                    Henry Armstrong ======= 40-14-6 ====== 0.667
                    Willie Pep ============= N/A
                    Harry Greb ============ N/A
                    Benny Leonard ========= N/A

                    Average of Opponent's Record:
                    Ranking by No. of Wins minus No. of Losses:
                    Joe Louis ============= 40-10-3
                    Muhhamad Ali ========== 33-5-1
                    Sugar Ray Leonard ====== 32-5-1
                    Henry Armstrong ======= 40-14-6
                    Sugar Ray Robinson ===== 39-14-4
                    Pernell Whitaker ======== 28-4-1
                    Manny Pacquiao ======== 24-4-1(7th)
                    Roberto Duran ========= 21-5-1
                    Willie Pep ============= N/A
                    Harry Greb ============ N/A
                    Benny Leonard ========= N/A

                    Pacquiao's Other Statistics:
                    World Title Fights Record: 13-1-2
                    Number of Defeated World Champions: 12
                    Longest Win streak w/o a draw: 15
                    First Held a World Title at age: 19
                    Last Held a World Title at age: 31 (present)
                    Never fought a 0-0-0 fighter
                    Cotto and Hatton will/should not be in the HOF.... Well with Cotto is borderline...Hatton? GTFOH...
                    Last edited by jrosales13; 11-15-2010, 10:14 AM.

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                    • #20
                      Pacquiao is 31 years old and he's an amateur actor, decent singer, has just won a boxing world championship and is running for President of the Philipines...

                      At 51, he could be made Pope. Is he a Roman Catholic?

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