floyd's success above 135 is mostly based on other..

[puga]

Only Floyd would get criticized for fighting the winner of a fight as opposed to the loser.

only floyd gets credit for other people's wins...

[Killa Killa]

Floyd is millionaire but his real job is cherry picking......a fruit picker.

He is hoping canelo loses so he wont have to fight him in september or whatever date is planed. He makes promises he will fight the more dangerous guy in the future, but hopes something derails the fight. He didnt mind JMM beat Pac, cos he can boast he is the one who beat JMM better than Pac did.

Floyds success is from what others do.

Smh.......

[-Kev-]

I seriously can't believe you actually believe all that.

So he would have had a great resume if he had beaten the guy on your avatar and the guy that the guy on your avatar beat. Basically all Floyd's ticket to greatness were conveniently fighters from a promotional company that he didn't do/will never do business with after leaving it.

Gotcha.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

again , he's been a ww almost half of his carreer..compared to others who are fairly new to the weighclass...

He has 43 fights.

Only 9 have been at 147 or higher so how in the hell is that almost half his career?

[ADP02]

Dumb thread, TBH.

When Mayweather-Tszyu was at it's best moment to happen, which even Floyd called him out on HBO earlier that year, Tszyu and Mayweather fought in the same exact month vs Hatton and Gatti respectively. Mayweather dominated and destroyed Gatti, Hatton dominated and retired Tszyu. Hatton was not ready for Mayweather however.

Margarito was a TR fighter, Floyd had just left TR chasing for a DLH fight in 2006 because DLH said he will not work with Arum. DLH-Mayweather did not happen in 2006 as it was thought, because DLH wanted to get a belt so he fought Mayorga. In the meantime, Floyd fought WW lineal/Ring champion Carlos Baldomir.

Pacquiao had the chance to make the fight in 2010 but backed away from a 15 day cut off, which he himself had asked for. It was granted to him by Mayweather but he still backed out. Just like he told Martinez to come down to 150, Martinez said okay, but Pacquiao backed out.

When the common denominator is always Floyd then one needs to take a harder look at those statements and say why does this always happen to Floyd? Is it bad luck?

The answer is that when it becomes repetitive, one needs to call it what it is.

Floyd didn't want to fight Margarito and was never looking to fight Margarito. He even admitted it years later that he avoided Margarito and used the "bricks" excuse to conclude that he knew that Margarito was too shady to take him on .... but that really meant too risky!

Why is it that Oscar can't fight TR fighter but Manny was able to? Then later, Floyd couldn't fight TR fighters because he is GB but again, Manny did!

Why couldn't Floyd do like Mosley did? Sorry Oscar, I want to fight whoever I want including Manny!

The craziest thing about all this is that Floyd is supposed to be his own boss. So if he is his own boss then why not take on the riskier fights instead of always saying he can't because he is tied to GB?

Even when it came to fighters like P. Williams. He called Floyd out but Floyd preferred smaller fighters calling him out! Oh wait, I forgot, Williams is a Al Haymon fighter and so is Floyd. Can't happen! lol! BUT Williams didn't mind!

Then you need to add all those long vacations of Floyd's. They just happened to come when the WW divisions was stacked or at least had risky fighters. Must have been GB's fault ....

[WESS]

Beating two non Hall of Famers like Margarito and Cotto, wouldn't have made his resume substantially better, just slightly better than now. Beating Cotto at 154 was the best win he could have gotten at the time at 154, because Cotto was the #1 ranked fighter. It was also a good fight, but it's not a really big win, and it wouldn't have been a big win even in 2004-2005 when Floyd wanted it in Top Rank, 2007-2008 when people were claiming Floyd was ducking him, or now in 2012. It's one of Floyd top name wins, but it's not one of his biggest win and never would have been no matter when he fought Cotto. Castillo, Corrales, De La Hoya, Marquez, Mosley, and Hatton were all seen as much better fights coming in. I'd also put Hernandez in front of Cotto. Cotto is a better win than Judah, Gatti, Chavez, Ortiz, Baldomir, Corley though and I would rate it as a higher win than Guerrero too.

...........Basically all Floyd's ticket to greatness were conveniently fighters from a promotional company that he didn't do/will never do business with after leaving it.

Gotcha.

This about sums it up... Such a **** thread to be posting in though.

[FeFist]

Money aint neva gona get no credit dawg

I know ese.

only floyd gets credit for other people's wins...

He doesn't get credit for other people's wins, he doesn't even get credit for his own wins ''Yeah but he was old'', ''yeah but he stopped using the jab'', ''Yeah but he was smaller than Floyd'', ''Yeah but he fought most of his career at Jr Welterweight''.

[puga]

He has 43 fights.

Only 9 have been at 147 or higher so how in the hell is that almost half his career?

he's been a ww since 2005 ..thats about 8 years..he's been a pro since 96 ..you do the math...

[ADP02]

He has 43 fights.

Only 9 have been at 147 or higher so how in the hell is that almost half his career?

Its sad to even mention that that is all Floyd has to show for during that (nearly a) decade! Floyd could have done so much more.

Burner, you also wanted Floyd to fight Cotto .... but Floyd fought Hatton then went on his long vacation!

So many fights that could have been .... sad, really sad!

[puga]

I know esse.

He doesn't get credit for other people's wins, he doesn't even get credit for his own wins ''Yeah but he was old'', ''yeah but he stopped using the jab'', ''Yeah but he was smaller than Floyd'', ''Yeah but he fought most of his career at Jr Welterweight''.

im obviously talking about his fans POV...