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Originally posted by Xercen View Postgun control works. Numbers don't lie
Number of Murders, United States, 2009: 15,241
Number of Murders by Firearms, US, 2009: 9,146
Number of Murders, Britain, 2008*: 648
(Since Britain’s population is 1/5 that of US, this is equivalent to 3,240 US murders)
Number of Murders by[pdf] firearms, Britain, 2008* 39
(equivalent to 195 US murders)
*The Home office reported murder statistics in the UK for the 12 months to March 2009, but these are 12-month figures).
For more on murder by firearms in Britain, see the BBC.
The international comparisons show conclusively that fewer gun owners per capita produce not only fewer murders by firearm, but fewer murders per capita over all. In the case of Britain, firearms murders are 48 times fewer than in the US.
Do hunters really need semi-automatic Glock hand guns? Is that how they roll in deer season? The US public doesn’t think so.
http://www.juancole.com/2011/01/over...-39-in-uk.html
Why don't you post all violent crime rates in places like the UK or Australia vs the US, oh wait, they don't support your opinion. Yes gun related deaths are reduced but as a result, stabbings, rapes, assaults, and all other violent crime is up in those countries.
And mind you, the UK has never had even a fraction of the firearms currently in the US. DO you honestly think if guns were banned here they'd be able to collect all 300+ Million firearms?!? Its the honest, responsible owners that would have their firearms collected, not the illegal owners.
2nd amendment isn't for hunters, but yea, when legally permitted, I carry a semi-automatic .45 when hunting as a sidearm in bear country.
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Originally posted by madsweeney View PostSo you're a fan of a culture that glorifies violence, drugs and real mutherf**kin g's, but you can't handle the NRA. Gotcha
Like I said, ******ed Repubs.
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Originally posted by madsweeney View PostWhy don't you post all violent crime rates in places like the UK or Australia vs the US, oh wait, they don't support your opinion. Yes gun related deaths are reduced but as a result, stabbings, rapes, assaults, and all other violent crime is up in those countries.
And mind you, the UK has never had even a fraction of the firearms currently in the US. DO you honestly think if guns were banned here they'd be able to collect all 300+ Million firearms?!? Its the honest, responsible owners that would have their firearms collected, not the illegal owners.
2nd amendment isn't for hunters, but yea, when legally permitted, I carry a semi-automatic .45 when hunting as a sidearm in bear country.
Rapes in the last 7 years have been higher in America than the uk. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics
http://www.channel4.com/news/uk-murd...lmost-30-years
There are more burglaries here in the uk and more reported violent crime but in England you have differences in what violent crime is defined as.
In the uk, an affray is a violent crime but in the us it is only logged if a person is injured.
Here is an article telling both sides of the story
http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/013582.html
Regardless though, I'd rather live in a country with more crime and violent crime than a country with a huge murder rate since I would be so scared about my kids beng blown up by a gun totting maniac.
If u prefer living in a place where you have a greater chance of being murdered then good luck to you.
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Originally posted by madsweeney View PostWhy don't you post all violent crime rates in places like the UK or Australia vs the US, oh wait, they don't support your opinion. Yes gun related deaths are reduced but as a result, stabbings, rapes, assaults, and all other violent crime is up in those countries.
And mind you, the UK has never had even a fraction of the firearms currently in the US. DO you honestly think if guns were banned here they'd be able to collect all 300+ Million firearms?!? Its the honest, responsible owners that would have their firearms collected, not the illegal owners.
2nd amendment isn't for hunters, but yea, when legally permitted, I carry a semi-automatic .45 when hunting as a sidearm in bear country.
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Originally posted by Xercen View PostYou are wrong about rapes.
Rapes in the last 7 years have been higher in America than the uk. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics
http://www.channel4.com/news/uk-murd...lmost-30-years
There are more burglaries here in the uk and more reported violent crime but in England you have differences in what violent crime is defined as.
In the uk, an affray is a violent crime but in the us it is only logged if a person is injured.
Here is an article telling both sides of the story
http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/013582.html
Regardless though, I'd rather live in a country with more crime and violent crime than a country with a huge murder rate since I would be so scared about my kids beng blown up by a gun totting maniac.
If u prefer living in a place where you have a greater chance of being murdered then good luck to you.
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Originally posted by res View PostBut most of that murder is either inner city stuff (Black on Black, Hispanic on hispanic) or statistically rare school shootings
Americans have 13% black and 13% hispanic. Basically, the white population is going to be a minority in 40 years and good luck with your gang wars because they are only going to be greater in scope as the years pass.
And yes, you are right. I also believe the white NRA folks only support guns because they are scared of black and brown people, which is a crap reason to carry guns in the first place.
But the main race that has carried out the school shootings have been white americans.
So in the future, according to your opinion, white americans commit school shootings and black and hispanic are shooting each other and themselves in the streets in gang warfare.
God bless america. You are gonna need it sonLast edited by Xercen; 12-27-2012, 10:25 AM.
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Originally posted by Xercen View PostAmericans have 13% black and 13% hispanic. Basically, the white population is going to be a minority in 40 years and good luck with your gang wars because they are only going to be greater in scope as the years pass.
Originally posted by Xercen View PostIn the uk we have 2% black. And our black guys don't have guns and are generally much more peace loving than your guys who are carrying the burden of slavery and think that the world owes them something.
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And yes, you are right. I also believe the white NRA folks only support guns because they are scared of black and brown people, which is a crap reason to carry guns in the first place.
And LOL @ the bold, I didn't say that. Be careful about trying to analyze another society from a distance. The NRA folks are more paranoid about the government than anything else.Last edited by res; 12-27-2012, 04:11 PM.
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