Floyd has the better skill set, I know that much.
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Marciano will still be the better '0' fighter than Floyd, right?
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Originally posted by Freedom. View PostMarciano never ducked anybody.
Floyd will mainly be remembered for all the fighters he avoided: prime Casamayor, prime Mosley, Tszyu, Forrest, prime 2006-08 Cotto, 2006 Margarito and of course Pacquiao.
Marciano should be remembered as having had a better career than Mayweather.
Casamayor? Tszyu who was retired by Hatton by the time Floyd went up to 140
Prime Mosley who wanted a vacation, and then his teeth hurt
Prime Cotto, who the hell is prime Cotto
Pacquiao the catchweight king who keeps getting schooled by Marquez, LOL.
Margarito the bum who got destroyed by an old Mosley, who then lost to Floyd, Rofl.
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No. Anyone who says Marciano's and Calzaghe's perfect records are better than Floyd's are high on bird s**t.
Marciano's best wins: LaStarza (controversial 1st fight), Layne, Louis, Walcott, Charles, and Moore. Louis, Walcott, and Charles were past their primes completely by the time Marciano fought them.
Calzaghe's best wins: Eubank, Sheika, Starie, Thornberry, Veit, Lacy, Bika, Manfredo, Kessler, Hopkins (controversial), and Jones. Hopkins is still good but he's been past his prime for awhile, and Jones in 2008.....no way. Lacy and Kessler were Joe's best wins to me. He was an ATG SMW, but his 0 is not better than Mayweather's. A ton of Joe's wins during his prime were against contenders who were decent but nothing special at all, and only HUGH GRANT thinks they were great and huge wins.
Mayweather's best wins: G. Hernandez, Manfredy, Gerena, Corrales, C. Hernandez, Chavez, Castillo (1st fight controversial), N'dou, Judah, De La Hoya, Hatton, Marquez, Mosley, Ortiz.
Mayweather > Calzaghe and Marciano......only people that argue otherwise are old timers that love Marciano, bias Floyd haters, or bias Joe Calzaghe lovers.
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Originally posted by 4CornersKid View PostNo. Anyone who says Marciano's and Calzaghe's perfect records are better than Floyd's are high on bird s**t.
Marciano's best wins: LaStarza (controversial 1st fight), Layne, Louis, Walcott, Charles, and Moore. Louis, Walcott, and Charles were past their primes completely by the time Marciano fought them.
Calzaghe's best wins: Eubank, Sheika, Starie, Thornberry, Veit, Lacy, Bika, Manfredo, Kessler, Hopkins (controversial), and Jones. Hopkins is still good but he's been past his prime for awhile, and Jones in 2008.....no way. Lacy and Kessler were Joe's best wins to me. He was an ATG SMW, but his 0 is not better than Mayweather's. A ton of Joe's wins during his prime were against contenders who were decent but nothing special at all, and only HUGH GRANT thinks they were great and huge wins.
Mayweather's best wins: G. Hernandez, Manfredy, Gerena, Corrales, C. Hernandez, Chavez, Castillo (1st fight controversial), N'dou, Judah, De La Hoya, Hatton, Marquez, Mosley, Ortiz.
Mayweather > Calzaghe and Marciano......only people that argue otherwise are old timers that love Marciano, bias Floyd haters, or bias Joe Calzaghe lovers.
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Originally posted by -Kev- View PostForrest That's a new one, when was this?
Casamayor? Tszyu who was retired by Hatton by the time Floyd went up to 140
Prime Mosley who wanted a vacation, and then his teeth hurt
Prime Cotto, who the hell is prime Cotto
Pacquiao the catchweight king who keeps getting schooled by Marquez, LOL.
Margarito the bum who got destroyed by an old Mosley, who then lost to Floyd, Rofl.
In 2007, Floyd could have easily made a fight with Forrest at 147 or 154, instead of getting the reach-challenged Ricky Hatton to move up from 140 and fight him at 147.
Mosley called Floyd out on ESPN in June 2007 and wanted to fight him at 147, but Floyd decided to get the the shorter-armed Hatton to move up from his preferred weight of 140.
Casamayor was fighting at 130 the same time as Floyd. Why did he get featherweight Carlos Alberto Ramon Rios to move up to fight him, instead of unifying with Casamayor?
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Originally posted by Freedom. View PostSince Floyd got people from smaller weight divisions to move up and fight him, such as Carlos Alberto Ramon Rios and Juan Manuel Marquez, why couldn't he have challenged Mosley at 135 or Tszyu at 140 ten years ago?
In 2007, Floyd could have easily made a fight with Forrest at 147 or 154, instead of getting the reach-challenged Ricky Hatton to move up from 140 and fight him at 147.
Mosley called Floyd out on ESPN in June 2007 and wanted to fight him at 147, but Floyd decided to get the the shorter-armed Hatton to move up from his preferred weight of 140.
Casamayor was fighting at 130 the same time as Floyd. Why did he get featherweight Carlos Alberto Ramon Rios to move up to fight him, instead of unifying with Casamayor?
Mosley was at 147 by the end of 1999.
I can tell you haven't been following long.
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