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Originally posted by HeroBando View PostAnd so far Pac has been a good bet for him. I bet he took a good hit on that 27% minimum on the Bradley fight, but more than made up with the 2 JMM fights.
That is why Manny had leverage to make something happen though, because Arum can't just replace Manny and he can't make him fight.
Manny certainly did very well for himself though also, if only one guy makes a bit more in your field that isn't too shabby. So while I am critical of his choice on this matter, it is not like he is hurting that much from it either.
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Originally posted by The Gambler1981 View PostArum is out for number 1 no doubt and Manny has made him a bunch of money, that certainly isn't up for debate.
That is why Manny had leverage to make something happen though, because Arum can't just replace Manny and he can't make him fight.
Manny certainly did very well for himself though also, if only one guy makes a bit more in your field that isn't too shabby. So while I am critical of his choice on this matter, it is not like he is hurting that much from it either.
Really it was just the fans who lost.
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Originally posted by The Gambler1981 View PostArum is out for number 1 no doubt and Manny has made him a bunch of money, that certainly isn't up for debate.
That is why Manny had leverage to make something happen though, because Arum can't just replace Manny and he can't make him fight.
Manny certainly did very well for himself though also, if only one guy makes a bit more in your field that isn't too shabby. So while I am critical of his choice on this matter, it is not like he is hurting that much from it either.
Very few guys have gone off on their own, and both had aspirations to be a promoter, which Pac doesn't. And it's easy to make a wrong move. For example he could have signed with 50 Cent and had to fight on TR cards, having to pay both Arum and 50.
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Originally posted by HeroBando View PostI'm sure Pac hasn't maximized his earnings, but like you said he's done well. For example, under some fictional 50/50 split, Pac would end up with 27% less than Floyd, at best. Still a ton of money.
Very few guys have gone off on their own, and both had aspirations to be a promoter, which Pac doesn't. And it's easy to make a wrong move. For example he could have signed with 50 Cent and had to fight on TR cards, having to pay both Arum and 50.
However some people just aren't risk takers like that and considering how jacked Manny's team was/is that someone like Arum was actually needed to make it work as good as it did.
What good is making more money if it is going out the door at a much faster rate~
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Originally posted by RapidFire_Royce View PostI would say ultimately that is the best way to look at it. I started this thread just to talk about the financial ramifications of this fight and it seems to led to a good convo (for the most part) be really arguing between who missed out on more money between these two is pure semantics.
Really it was just the fans who lost.
Also since I gamble and make money on boxing, I try to root for their success to make me feel less guilty about making money on the pain of others.
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Originally posted by The Gambler1981 View PostYea it is a risk to go out on your own, but with that risk comes bigger rewards.
However some people just aren't risk takers like that and considering how jacked Manny's team was/is that someone like Arum was actually needed to make it work as good as it did.
What good is making more money if it is going out the door at a much faster rate~
And the bolded applies to Floyd at least as much, and many other huge names from the past.
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Originally posted by Rip Chudd View PostI don't know man, I can see the 40 mil offer from both sides. The fan in me says it was a lowball offer, but seeing it from the business side that Mayweather was talking about I can see why he offered him that. From what I heard recently in a Floyd interview he wanted to cut Arum out completely. He said something to the effect of giving Manny the 40 mil while not including Arum cause he didn't want to put money in Arum's pocket. that in turn would mean more money for Pac as he wouldn't be paying his 25% or however much he has to pay to Arum
Not to mention Arum would have never let that happen, he would have fought Pac in court.
Originally posted by RapidFire_Royce View PostIf You think of this with any other product:
Say you are wanting to sell your house for 1,000,000. But some rich guy is only offering you 600,000 for it. And that is the absolute best deal that is out there. Even though you know its not fair if your other option is selling your same house to someone else for 300,000, do you then turn down the 600k and take the 300k because you know the rich guy was short changing you?Last edited by Light_Speed; 02-27-2013, 11:22 PM.
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Originally posted by straightleft View Postlol! Floyd doesn't want any part of Pac. Remember when Pac was dominating everybody Floyd should already challenge him but guess what? Is Pac fault because he didn't agree to Floyd useless OST and 0% PPV offer.
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