Britain More Violent Than South Africa And The U.S.?

[El Fenomeno]

They also have high amounts of knife murders and they still have shootings and spree shootings despite their authoritarian gun laws.

Its somewhat unfair to compare them to South Africa since there is basically a genocide being waged against whites there by the communists.

There have been like 2/3 spree shootings in the last 25 years.

[Glamour Puss]

There have been like 2/3 spree shootings in the last 25 years.

Right. Meaning gun laws don't work.

[El Fenomeno]

Right. Meaning gun laws don't work.

Right.

Because that number would be lower if there were no gun laws.

[Glamour Puss]

Right.

Because that number would be lower if there were no gun laws.

Its impossible to tell because you can't legislate behavior. Bottom line, Brits need to mind their own failing country rather than point fingers at anyone else.

[Sparked_26]

Its impossible to tell because you can't legislate behavior. Bottom line, Brits need to mind their own failing country rather than point fingers at anyone else.

I would say you are far more likely to shoot someone to death with a gun as opposed to say shooting them to death with a throat lozenge.

[El Fenomeno]

Its impossible to tell because you can't legislate behavior. Bottom line, Brits need to mind their own failing country rather than point fingers at anyone else.

The use of common sense should dictate that the figure would be significantly higher than 3 in 25 years.

Bottom line is that I and everyone else I know in this country feel safe walking around without a weapon, a large percentage of American's don't (as I've seen posted several times on this forum alone). Doesn't that tell you everything you need to know?

It isn't about pointing the finger, realize that.

[Earl-Hickey]

It's not that bad

[Jim Jeffries]

Over 4 times the violent crime rate of the US? No wonder their government doesn't want them owning guns.

[squealpiggy]

There's also less people there than here. And I suspect the government suppresses statistics since it would be embarrassing to report that their nanny state is a failure.

There's about a sixth of the population of the US living in Britain. The US has something like 17 times as many murders. Homicide rate.

The US has a considerably higher rate of violent crime than the UK once you exclude consensual street fights. And frankly I'm not too concerned with a high incidence of consensual street fights because I never involve myself in them.

[Glamour Puss]

The use of common sense should dictate that the figure would be significantly higher than 3 in 25 years.

Bottom line is that I and everyone else I know in this country feel safe walking around without a weapon, a large percentage of American's don't (as I've seen posted several times on this forum alone). Doesn't that tell you everything you need to know?

It isn't about pointing the finger, realize that.

Yeah, England is clearly a paradise.