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Frank Bruno vs David Haye who wins?
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Originally posted by Cardinal Buck View PostYet Bruno won a title against McCall. And Seldon held one of the other belts. And I think a fat shadow of Bowe held the other.
Say what you want about today's division, but the K bros are top ten h2h all time and arguably top 15 on resumes all time (Wlad definitely is).
Haye's getting undermined here because he's (a) hated and (b) lost to Wlad (who even beats Wlad these days? Haye came closer than just about anyone since Wlad's comeback).
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Somehow you mixed up Vlad and Vitali. Anyway, Lennox was raw when Bruno fought him which is a lot of the reason why he looked so crappy, although he still stopped Bruno, and not on cuts. Vitali's version was physically past it, but had a better idea of how to fight. And Vitali did way better than Briggs, but that has little to do with the topic.
And I spelled out how weak Bruno's resume was in the other post. The man built his name off of getting knocked out every time he fought anyone good. Haye would be favored over every single fighter Bruno beat. Haye still has time to get some wins and have a better heavy resume than Bruno. His career resume is already much better than Bruno's if you count cruiser. Now that I think about it, Valuev and Ruiz had better resumes than Bruno; Ruiz by a lot.Last edited by Cardinal Buck; 02-21-2012, 11:29 PM.
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Originally posted by Cardinal Buck View PostYet Bruno won a title against McCall. And Seldon held one of the other belts. And I think a fat shadow of Bowe held the other.
Say what you want about today's division, but the K bros are top ten h2h all time and arguably top 15 on resumes all time (Wlad definitely is).
Haye's getting undermined here because he's (a) hated and (b) lost to Wlad (who even beats Wlad these days? Haye came closer than just about anyone since Wlad's comeback).
Haye is underestimated because of hatred, but because of the style match up here a) Bruno is a big puncher b) Bruno has a jab that can with stand Haye C) Bruno is bigger and stronger D) Bruno is more skilful. David Haye is brawler with reflexes, Bruno will trap him sooner rather than later and crush him.
Haye came didn't come close on the score cards but every round was close yes. But really, who has Wladamir even fought in recent times that's much of a threat? No one cause Haye is the only one. No matter how far Wladamir has improved I still can't him surviving against a prime Corrnie Sanders.
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Originally posted by Cardinal Buck View PostSomehow you mixed up Vlad and Vitali. Anyway, Lennox was raw when Bruno fought him which is a lot of the reason why he looked so crappy, although he still stopped Bruno, and not on cuts. Vitali's version was physically past it, but had a better idea of how to fight. And Vitali did way better than Briggs, but that has little to do with the topic.
And I spelled out how weak Bruno's resume was in the other post. The man built his name off of getting knocked out every time he fought anyone good. Haye would be favored over every single fighter Bruno beat. Haye still has time to get some wins and have a better heavy resume than Bruno. His career resume is already much better than Bruno's if you count cruiser. Now that I think about it, Valuev and Ruiz had better resumes than Bruno; Ruiz by a lot.
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Originally posted by dchampisback View Postyou are right i got the names mixed, but Haye beat who at heavy? monte, big foot, ruiz, and that other guy i dont remember his name, that is a better list than Brunos entire career at heavy? what? ok, i'm done here
@kiDynamite92 I'm not even going there. If McCall is now kayoing Wlad, I'm in no way taking you seriously.
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Originally posted by Cardinal Buck View PostWhere did I say that? I said his career is more accomplished than Bruno's, which it without a doubt is. As long as he keeps fighting at heavy, he'll end up more accomplished at heavy too. Get some reading comprehension before acting all c ocky.
@kiDynamite92 I'm not even going there. If McCall is now kayoing Wlad, I'm in no way taking you seriously.
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Originally posted by Cardinal Buck View PostWhere did I say that? I said his career is more accomplished than Bruno's, which it without a doubt is. As long as he keeps fighting at heavy, he'll end up more accomplished at heavy too. Get some reading comprehension before acting all c ocky.
@kiDynamite92 I'm not even going there. If McCall is now kayoing Wlad, I'm in no way taking you seriously.
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Originally posted by dchampisback View Posti lied i'm back, and please excuse me i've been awake for a long time i dont mean to sound like that, but mabey i read it wrong. anyway back to the topic, really at heavy he is still unproven and skill wise he cannot match Bruno and surely not heart wise either, in fact i think even Gary Mason stops Haye also Mason was as crude as they come but what a rough tough sob he was, way too much for haye too handel for 10 rounds
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